Talk:Creatures
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Proposal for Creatures Page
I propose to create separate section on the page for "creatures" that are not native to Spherus Magna nor are Rahi, nor qualify as "sapient beings". They don't fit anywhere else and here seems the only good place, obviously make clear distinction from Spherus Magna biota. These outcasts in question, created by various means are:
- Avohkah
- Kraata, Rahkshi and Shadow Leech
- Kratana
- Sonic Entity
- Vatuka
- Toa Inikas sentient masks
- The Living Wall from Maze of Shadows
- Any sentient object, like the ones from Cursed Great Being & Ravagers sword and shield.
- Any other oddity that cant fit anywhere else I couldn't think of.
I hope for this to be considered.
- I think there might be a place to list some of these, but not on the Creatures page. This is specifically for organic SM creatures. --Angel Bob (talk) 16:49, 11 April 2017 (CET)
- I guess its strictly agreed to be kept like that? I believe since just like in Flora, both natural SM plants and MU plants are kept under one page, when they are not the same. So should any non rahi creature, I don't think it will cause confusion when a clear distinction can be made.--BionicleMax (talk) 17:19, 11 April 2017 (CET)
- Plants are an interesting case, but I think they belong on the same page because they can all be controlled by the element of Jungle. Creatures, Rahi, and these miscellaneous entities, though, all have very different origins and natures. For example, half of them are elemental beings, while the Kratana are protodermic entities of some kind, and the rest are objects that were unnaturally brought to life.
- The main reason I am opposed to this grouping is because 1) these entities are too disparate in nature and 2) most of them are already listed somewhere on the wiki. The elemental beings are in Category:Elemental Beings, the organic Kanohi are on Kanohi, and the Kraata/etc are only extensions of the Makuta species, so they are covered on that page. The living objects associated with the cursed GB and Ravager are unaccounted for, but I think we could simply list them on the Objects page. --Angel Bob (talk) 17:40, 11 April 2017 (CET)
- Not absolutely sure, but that seems also just the case with Creatures being able to be controlled by characters with various Rahi related powers, for instance Kongu was able to summon Ancient Sea Behemoth when it's not a Rahi. But to give my response 1) They all have different origins, that has to be acknowledged. But some are referred to as creatures since there isn't really another way to refer to them, they can just be "Others". And to 2) Already listed somewhere yes but you have to find specific category for that. I want readers to be able to directly, whenever they click Creature from Main page to find them. By now I think adding objects animated or becoming organic to this listing is too much of a stretch, so that just leaves the first five I mentioned in original post.--BionicleMax (talk) 01:00, 12 April 2017 (CET)
- I guess its strictly agreed to be kept like that? I believe since just like in Flora, both natural SM plants and MU plants are kept under one page, when they are not the same. So should any non rahi creature, I don't think it will cause confusion when a clear distinction can be made.--BionicleMax (talk) 17:19, 11 April 2017 (CET)
- And we know that the Avohkah are Rahi. — Surel—Nuva (Talk) 17:57, 11 April 2017 (CET)
- Technically, we still don't know that. See Talk:Avohkah: the Farshtey Feed entry cited only says that they "are considered Rahi", which isn't solid evidence. Maybe the OGD has the answer, but no one's checked it. --Angel Bob (talk) 22:50, 11 April 2017 (CET)
Mask of Light fish
The fish I can understand, the Seahorse certainly look very biomechanic though. Is there any source on them being creatures? ~ Wolk (talk) 13:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)