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Welcome to BS01! -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Greetings Morris the Mata Nui Cow!--ToaKebaka (talk) 11:40, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

The GSR didn't physically leave the Solis Magna Star System (?)

You undid my revision, and given that he may have been able to observe exoplanets even if he never left himself, I kind of understand. Greg has also given conflicting statements about whether the GSR ever went beyond the Solis Magna star system to other star systems. Supporting that he did stay within the Spherus Magna System include this, this. Given the fact that he has stayed consistent in saying that the GSR and Red Star cannot travel faster than the speed of light, this would kinda make sense, as I don't know how many planets with alien life he would have actually been able to reach, observe, and return from, any significant number of planets with alien life, assuming it is as rare as in the real world(we don't know that that's the case though), even going a significant portion of the speed of light. He also gave an explanation/statement, specifically in regards to how he could have spent 100,000 years just observing planets from the Solis Magna System, saying that he was on each planet for significant amounts of time. I will, however, point out that he has at least once said that he did travel to other star systems, such as here (though do note that this could be saying that their were 2 or more stars that made up the greater Spherus Magna system, and that it/they had (a) seperate solar system(s)). If you have any knowledge about this or have any suggestions for how this should be handled, let me know. Firespitter Lhii (talk) 22:45, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

I undid your revision because it went back to the outdated view on Mata Nui's travels, which relied solely on couple of Greg quotes. The truth of the matter is Mata Nui did leave the planetary system of Solis Magna and explored beyond it. Even keeping it to Greg, there are more statements saying he explored planets throughout the universe and/or galaxy, both of which indicate flying beyond Solis Magna. But more importantly, the published sources all unanimously state Mata Nui explored the universe.--ToaKebaka (talk) 00:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Mahri Log

What is "Mahri Log"? ~ Wolk (talk) 15:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Mahri Log was a panel on the home page of bionicle.com in later 2007. It had 19 entries.--ToaKebaka (talk) 15:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Gotcha! We really need to add more information on what was on the website. ~ Wolk (talk) 17:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Here is the transcript of all the entries as originally written. I believe this should be treated at least equally to Toa Nuva Blog and Takanuva Blog, perhaps with its own page:
  • Toa Nuparu is fascinated by the technology used by the Mahri Nui Matoran.
  • The Matoran of Mahri Nui harvest air bubbles from the airweed plant to allow them to breathe underwater.
  • Giant air bubbles surround the buildings of Mahri Nui.
  • The Mahri Nui Matoran use weapons that launch solid air bubbles. Air is poisonous to creatures of the sea.
  • Below Mahri Nui is the "black water", the most dangerous part of the Pit.
  • A stone cord links Mahri Nui and Voya Nui, which the Toa must destroy to accomplish their mission.
  • The Cordak blasters were originally made on the island of Xia.
  • "Cordak" is the Matoran word for "desolation".
  • The Mahri Nui Matoran originally lived on the island of Voya Nui before their city broke off and sank.
  • The tubes on the Toa Mahri's masks act as gills, allowing them to survive underwater.
  • The Toa Mahri were originally the Toa Inika, but they were transformed into their new forms by the power of the Mask of Life.
  • Along with new armor, the Toa Mahri each have a new mask and mask power.
  • The Toa Mahri must turn the Barraki against each other if they hope to win.
  • Because they were created by the power of the Mask of Life, the Toa Mahri are immune to the mutagen in the water.
  • Toa Hewkii is the worst swimmer of the Toa Mahri.
  • Toa Kongu HATES the water and would much rather the Mask of Life had gone up into the trees.
  • Toa Hahli has now become one of the most powerful Toa, since the water is her element.
  • Toa Jaller is facing a challenge, as it is very hard to use fire power under water...
  • Toa Matoro keeps to himself, spending much of his time with Maxilos.
Awesome! Would you happen to have dates/archive links for any of these? ~ Wolk (talk) 17:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
No problem! I got to them simply by clicking on the archived link already on BS01.--ToaKebaka (talk) 18:02, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Meta:Use of Appropriated Words in BIONICLE

Nice job on that! Those were some pretty good finds. - Toa Jala Converse 05:22, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Happy to help :)--ToaKebaka (talk) 20:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Reconstitute At Random

I of all people would love for the Kanoka powers to generally be permanent (I think it makes much more sense for them to be "one and done" after they hit their target and release their energies), but your interpretation of RAR's description in the CoL guidebook makes absolutely no sense. If you were right, then you're essentially saying the guidebook is redundant and inconsistent. The description says "resulting in a new shape"; if the molecular scrambling were permanent, then that new shape would never be finalized, so directly saying the scrambling is temporary would be redundant. Second, why doesn't the guidebook say the other powers are temporary? Why doesn't it say Teleport temporarily transports the target to reach a new location? Why doesn't it say Enlarge/Shrink temporarily change the target's height to reach a new size? Why doesn't it say Freeze temporarily covers the target in ice until they are covered in a thick coating? Dag (talk) 15:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Another factor I'd like to consider: The Ministry of Tourism states there are 1000 Matoran and 6 Toa in Metru Nui, which may indicate this information is co-current with the Toa Metru's adventures, and we know all 1000 of those made it to Mata Nui: https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page174#post6931-line157-158,176-177,191,193,196,198 . Are these two Matoran not counted into that count? I suppose if it is co-current and those two are not counted in, it is possible the Matoran was still shrunk at the point of Web of the Visorak (since the quote is from February 05).
As for the alternate interpretation of "almost", I don't think that makes much sense. "he almost wound up on display as a Rahi in the Archives" -- I think it's a huge leap to take this and say the "almost" is referring simply to the Rahi part and not the "on display in the Archives" part. It's more likely Greg missed the word and wasn't familiar with what he had written (if he even was the one who had written it). The fact that it is noted on the tourism guide should indicate that they knew well what had happened, so at that point, why put them in the Archives? ~ Wolk (talk) 17:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
@Dag you misunderstand what I'm saying. The molecular scrambling is temporary yes, just like the guide states, but the resulting new shape is permanent. The way it is written implies the temporary scrambling is what leads to a new shape. To use an analogy, when you want to change a shape of a metal object, you need to melt it first and then cast it anew, but it must solidify again otherwise the shape won't hold. Temporary melting, just like temporary molecule scrambling, is a transitory state required to reach a new permanent shape.
@Wolk I don't really want to comment on the MN population as that has a history of being inconstistent. But I don't believe it is likely that Greg made a mistake this time because the asker cites the exact quotes from the site. I agree that whatever "investigation" took place figured out the events leading to the Matoran's transformation, since that ministry knows about it, thus leading them to not put him on display as Rahi. However that does not rule out that he was kept there in general. Matoran are known to store anything curious or dangerous in the archives - we don't know how dangerous this particular transformation was, but if it resembled a Rahi so convincigly, it should be no surprise they kept him off the streets, safely in storage. I'm not saying the Ministry of Tourism text alone implies this, but Greg's quote with this text cited above it makes this a viable explanation.--ToaKebaka (talk) 21:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

No, I understood that was exactly what you were saying. Like you said, the molecular scrambling is the transitory state. My point was that if that's what the book was actually suggesting, then explicitly stating the scrambling to be temporary would be redundant because, again, the new shape would never be reached if it was permanent. Likewise, the book could've said Teleportation's act of scrambling the targets molecules to move them from one point to another is temporary, or that Enlarge/Shrink are temporary because they only change the height of the target until it reaches the final size, etc, but it doesn't, so that would be inconsistent wording. It simply makes no sense to interpret the description in any way other than RAR having a temporary effect. Dag (talk) 21:49, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Why would the new shape never be reached? Where are you getting this permanent molecular scrambling, because I am not talking about such a thing.--ToaKebaka (talk) 22:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
You're the one misunderstanding. I'm not saying you're claiming the molecular scrambling is permanent. I'm not saying that I think it is permanent. I'm saying that if the RAR description lacked the word "temporarily," then we would still come to the conclusion that the scrambling was temporary because it's inherently implied in the wording.
"...scrambles the molecules of the target, resulting in a new shape."
If, hypothetically, the molecular scrambling were permanent, then this description wouldn't make sense because there would be no end result, and the target wouldn't turn into a new final shape. The book does not need to explicitly say it is temporary to make that point, so how you are choosing to interpret the inclusion of the word "temporarily" here makes it redundant. Dag (talk) 22:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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