User talk:Dorek

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Art Book Contest

Cheers for running this contest! Would email be your preferred method of contact? --Poor Disadvantaged (talk) 11:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes please!
Or you can message us on Facebook if that's easier:

-- Dorek Talk External Image 13:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)


Question: is there a way we could implement an age verification feature for users so that greg could use this site to interact with us? he's stated on the LMBs that LEGO's social media policy prohibits interacting with minors online, but i don't think an age verification feature would be very difficult - right? also, isn't bs01 a lego partner site or something? Intelligence4 (talk) 00:14, 5 February 2017 (CET)

another thought on that, i guess we wouldn't want a ton of new users signing up on here just to talk to greg, and then potentially mucking up the wiki if they don't know the rules, etc. so another idea i had is we could set up a dedicated page for it or something - maybe on greg's theoretical talk page or something, idk. Intelligence4 (talk) 00:18, 5 February 2017 (CET)
It's been discussed before, and it's not in LEGO's purview to allow. -- Dorek Talk External Image 06:01, 6 February 2017 (CET)
what do you mean? like it's not their job to implement a system on our site? Intelligence4 (talk) 17:31, 6 February 2017 (CET)
We could implement a 13-only rule, but LEGO still wouldn't allow it. It's more complicated than just the age thing, and we don't want to create an age barrier for no reason. -- Dorek Talk External Image 21:37, 18 February 2017 (CET)
But why wouldn't Lego allow it? ~OnionShark 11:03, 19 February 2017 (CET)
Part of it is the legality of having adults talk to children, and the inherent liabilities. Other things are probably just related to corporate policy. -- Dorek Talk External Image 01:04, 20 February 2017 (CET)


" Can we make/create the Template:GregCitation without 6 or 8 votes on the AfC? It seems pretty necessary as the Book/Comic/Media/Online Citations were. -- SurelNuva (Talk) 15:24, 26 February 2017 (CET)

I suppose we could make it, but if we do we'll likely overhaul it later. Hopefully in the future we'll have a searchable Greg quote database where you can link to quotes directly. I'll have to figure out how to best do that though. In the meantime, maybe ask Dorek? -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 19:04, 26 February 2017 (CET) "

- Copied this from User Talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow -- SurelNuva (Talk) 19:21, 26 February 2017 (CET)

If you wanna make a database of all the GregF quotes, then we'll have plenty of time to keep using GregCitation. I mean, I made an estimation and there seem to be 60,200~ posts in the OGTs, and that's not counting the two Ask Greg and CwGF. And really, why go through making such a long database when someone can simply copy&paste the date of a quote on the search bar for the OGTs transcripts and find the quote immediately? ~OnionShark 23:00, 26 February 2017 (CET)
I'm okay with both of these things. As long as the abbreviations don't get too conflicting and/or nonsensical, it's cool. -- Dorek Talk External Image 05:07, 28 February 2017 (CET)
So, can we make an exception to the 6/8 votes rule like SN proposed? ~OnionShark 12:50, 28 February 2017 (CET)

Is fine. -- Dorek Talk External Image 23:31, 28 February 2017 (CET)


hi my name is mata nui avunaka i'm a administrator of BIONICLE WIKI and i would like to ask to you and Biosector01 if you would agree to make an alliance with our wiki, you see we are the only and the most complete wiki in spanish and we want a real integration between wikis no matter the distance so would you like to make an alliance with our wiki? here's the main page of our wiki --Mata nui avunaka (talk) 15:18, 6 March 2017 (CET)

Maze of Shadows

I think the Maze of Shadows (game) should be under the semi-canon category instead of the non-canon one. We know that the Toa Metru encountered mutated Rahi, Rahkshi, and Bohrok in the maze, like in the story-mode of the game. If the worm-controlled Bohrok wouldn't be canon, the "Protection" would never have been witten. -- SurelNuva (Talk) 12:13, 8 March 2017 (CET)

I'm not too familiar with the game, but that seems reasonable. I'd recommend checking with Dorek to be sure though. Also, IDK if you're doing this already, but just in case: if a character appears in a piece of semi-canon media and we know that their appearance is entirely non-canon, I think we're better off labeling the appearance NC than SC. Likewise, if the character's appearance is entirely canon, no need to label it SC. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 05:06, 9 March 2017 (CET)
What do you think about that, Dorek? -- SurelNuva (Talk) 13:41, 11 March 2017 (CET)
i think this sounds good. Intelligence4 (talk) 18:16, 13 March 2017 (CET)

Semi-canon sounds fine. -- Dorek Talk External Image 23:33, 13 March 2017 (CET)

Concerning The Rahi Page

Hello Dorek, I am a newcomer so I apologize if I shouldn't bring this here instead of the Rahi talk page. Or do these edits myself but I am afraid to screw up or indirectly break policies. But there are things I want to bring attention to, remind and maybe get an answer.

First, I've noticed Manutri is not on the list of Rahi in the M section.

Second, I think since Sonic Entity is a Rahi in origin, it should go to that said list. I am sure you with other admins discussed where it along with Avohkah, Kratana, Fire Entity and Vatuka should be placed or categorized.

Three, MNOG citation should be removed from Electric Bug. We can't be certain it's the same as Lightning Bug.

And four, do Acid Flies have visual representation in BIONICLE Heroes? Or they were just mentioned in the game?

Once again I apologize if I shouldn't bring this to you, thank you!

--BionicleMax (talk) 15:58, 21 March 2017 (CET)

The Manutri, the Fire Entity and the Avohkah have been added. With the bugs, you're right. The Sonic entity was created by the Lohrak hordika, but wasn't a rahi. The Vatuka and the Kratana are not Rahi on the same way as the Krana and the Kraata are not Rahi. In the BIONICLE Heroes, the blue bionicle-piece rahi, (basically, Toa Metru lower torso with 2 technic connectors) are the acid flies. — SurelNuva (Talk) 18:04, 21 March 2017 (CET)
Thank you User:Surel-nuva for editing the Rahi page and giving me the welcome box on my user talk! However with all respect, if Sonic Entity despite being rahi in origin doesn't fit the criteria to be on the list so should Minion. Please do correct me if I am wrong, I didn't read the novels that feature these characters. I understand it's not easy to categorize these "outcasts" along the ones I mentioned, especially since definition of what makes rahi a rahi is not fully clear. --BionicleMax (talk) 06:56, 22 March 2017 (CET)
The Real difference between Minion and the Sonic entity: Minion was created in a Rahi experiment (He was to be a Rahi, just became more intelligent than the average, and escaped) by a Makuta, and the Sonic Enity was created by a Rahi. If you had created the sonic entity it wouldn't have been a human, just a thing created by a Human. — SurelNuva (Talk) 08:57, 22 March 2017 (CET)
I apologize Surel-Nuva, when I was reading the keyword "by" slipped pass me. I didn't wish to argue, just have a normal debate.--BionicleMax (talk) 09:16, 22 March 2017 (CET)
I didn't want to argue, don't get me wrong. :) I just brought an example to make this clear. (for me, with the example it's become more understandable)SurelNuva (Talk) 14:57, 22 March 2017 (CET)

Quick question

How do people become managers/admins/etc on this wiki? also, who oversees stuff like site maintenance and paying for web hosting fees and whatnot? (and who owns the site?) Intelligence4 (talk) 19:43, 22 March 2017 (CET)

Swert is the owner. — SurelNuva (Talk) 19:49, 22 March 2017 (CET)
so does he pay for all the hosting fees by himself? was he always the owner, or did someone else create the site? Intelligence4 (talk) 20:02, 22 March 2017 (CET)
I do indeed pay for the hosting fees, with some assistance. I have been the owner since 2006, when I took over for the previous owner/founder, Crystal Matrix. --External Image Owner (talk|contribs)
How'd you come about doing that? and does it cost much to maintain the wiki? Intelligence4 (talk) 20:39, 2 April 2017 (CET)

Affiliation or Partnership

hi my name is mata nui avunaka, i'm an administrator of BIONICLE WIKI and i would like to ask to you and Biosector01 if you would agree to make an affiliation or partnership with our wiki, you see we are the only and the most complete in spanish that has BIONICLE information and we want a real integration between wikis no matter the distance, so would you like to make an affiliation or partnership with our wiki? here's the main page of our wiki --Mata nui avunaka (talk) 15:54, 27 March 2017 (CET)


Hi there, Dorek.

Recently I've had a lot of renewed interest in the Hero Factory line and I'm casting my memory back to the days of old, when HeroSector01 was still operational. After trying to find a record of it through web archives I'm turning up a blank, though I did find a record of Meiko promising its return in 2015 once the server bank issues were fixed on a BZP post.

Obviously there are wider complexities that I'm not considering, but now that G2 has comfortably finished I'm just wondering how likely it is we'll see HeroSector01 return?

-- BobTheDoctor27

Account Creation Trouble

Hey, sorry to bother you, but a prospective member of this Wiki has been having trouble creating a Wiki account for some reason. She's very enthusiastic about contributing, but since she can't send messages without an account she asked me to relay this to you:

"Hi Dorek,

I tried joining BS01 tonight and it informed me I didn't have permission to do so. What's going on with that, and how can I get permission? If it helps, I tried making a mediawiki account and it told me I already have an account. But, when I tried to use the "recover lost password" function on BS01, it told me that there was no ZippyWharrgarbl in the site. Is there somewhere specifically that I need to go to?

Thank you in advance, ZippyWharrgarbl

P.S. I loved your story _Decadence_, by the way. It's one of my favourites."

Thank you for your help,

--The Aimless Wanderer1 (talk) 17:12, 19 July 2017 (CET)

We disabled account creation for a little bit because a vandal abused multiple accounts a few days ago. I've sent a message to the other staff asking if we can reopen it. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 17:45, 19 July 2017 (CET)
Reenabled! -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 19:34, 19 July 2017 (CET)


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Little help, please

Could you delete this page, please? I'm a bit tired and didn't notice that one of Jaller's Aquatic Power Blade's other names is Aquatic Fire Blade, not just Fire Blade. Thanks for your help! — SurelNuva (Talk) 22:24, 30 August 2017 (CET)

Flame Swords

If Greg was writing about the prototype, and all the other media depicts Jaller having 1 Sword, doesn't it mean that Jaller had only one sword, and that lone book is inaccurate? — SurelNuva (Talk) 22:57, 30 August 2017 (CET)

You'd think so, right? If somebody can dig up the quote(s) maybe we can parse out any inconsistencies. The biggest thing is that it's the most RECENT story source that it appeared in, which gives it some weight. -- Dorek Talk External Image 23:01, 30 August 2017 (CET)
Both the BEU and the Makuta's Guide is more recent than the Prisoners of the Pit. — SurelNuva (Talk) 23:18, 30 August 2017 (CET)
But Greg had 2 answers what I found in the OGT:

"4.-Why in the Zyglak battle at the beggining Jaller is said to carry two swords?"
"4) Cause I wanted him to"
— toa thirdview & Greg

" 2)Jaller Inika had two swords in BL7, where did he find the other one?"'
2) Always had it, just didn't in the set
— Wolven & Greg

Still, it's confusing that the newer sources still mention only 1 sword... — SurelNuva (Talk) 23:18, 30 August 2017 (CET)

I don't necessarily expect guidebooks to fully match up in regards to those particular details (since most of them are just copy-pasted or reformatted from older descriptions), so I'm not as surprised.

These quotes make it sound less like it was based on a prototype, but it's pretty definitive anyway. Two swords, natch. -- Dorek Talk External Image 23:30, 30 August 2017 (CET)

i think we can collectively acknowledge that jaller only had one sword. in literally all the visual media, and the sets (which are a hugely authoritative bit of canon) he only has one, and in all the written media, with the exception of that one book, he has only one sword. i think given that single contradiction, we can safely assume that was an error of sorts. (for some reason i remember that being because when greg wrote the manuscript they hadn't nailed down the set designs yet, so he was working off a prototype. do any of the other mahri have any inconsistencies in that book?) Intelligence4 (talk) 02:18, 5 September 2017 (CET)


Vrahno (Nikila's original designer) made a short video about her. Could we add to the wiki somehow? If Vrahno accepts it? — SurelNuva (Talk) 00:27, 31 August 2017 (CET)

At that point it's sort of outside the scope of the wiki; even if it's his original design, it's still functionally a fanmade adaptation. I'd say no, personally, but I can bring it up with the others. -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:09, 5 September 2017 (CET)

Upload problem

I cannot upload any file to the wiki, why? I wanted to upload the missing Building Instructions, but I can't. :( — SurelNuva (Talk) 18:28, 1 September 2017 (CET)

For some reason the 07 banner I uploaded for the building instructions gallery is not displaying, neither on that page, or even in the actual file page. I don't know what happened or if it can be fixed, but if not, it's easy for me to re-upload so I just need it deleted.--Harsulin's Ghost (talk) 18:49, 4 September 2017 (CET)

Here's the exact file 2007 banner mahri masks.png... and for some reason it's displaying right here?--Harsulin's Ghost (talk) 19:02, 4 September 2017 (CET)

Ummmmm... don't know if something happened but, working now!--Harsulin's Ghost (talk) 18:09, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Glad I could help.
(I didn't do anything) -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:08, 5 September 2017 (CET)
randomly jumping in here, but do we have the building instructions featured somewhere? or a database/page listing all the instruction somewhere? i haven't seen anything yet, aside from various pages linking to their own instructions. (and btw, that's a really nice looking banner for 2007. did one of you guys make that, or was that a preexisting image from somewhere?) Intelligence4 (talk) 02:15, 5 September 2017 (CET)

I don't think we have a collected page/portal for them all. What would that be, a category page? Sounds good to me once we figure out what type of page it is/what to call it. -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:41, 5 September 2017 (CET)

what if we literally just had a regular page on the wiki called instructions, and it listed all the instructions we have hosted locally? if i wanted to find instructions for a set for whatever reason, the first thing i'd do is google it, and then i'd either find the stuff on, or something here called "instructions", and from there i'd be able to look for the set i want.Intelligence4 (talk) 03:03, 5 September 2017 (CET)
edit: i'm a dummy, we already have a page that basically does this; didn't realize we have a gallery page already... carry on. Intelligence4 (talk) 03:05, 5 September 2017 (CET)

@ Intelligence4 I'm flattered to hear you like the 07 banner. I'm only a novice at photo editing, but I designed it myself, using a collection of images I found on BS01. --Harsulin's Ghost (talk) 22:37, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

i thought i hadn't seen that anywhere else. nice! Intelligence4 (talk) 23:21, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


I wonder why we don't use the reference/citation format what I used in the video names, and on the Aquatic Power Blade instead of the reference list. Sometimes it's bug me when I see the long list of references on the pages. Also, we have most of the sets' instructions on our wiki, so why don't we use them instead of the external ones from the — SurelNuva (Talk) 15:43, 27 August 2017 (CET)

I'll defer to the other staff on the first question. As for the second one, yeah let's use locally hosted instructions when possible. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 20:22, 27 August 2017 (CET)
I've posted some suggestions on the Splash's talk page recently. — SurelNuva (Talk) 20:27, 27 August 2017 (CET)
I've made a sandbox about the replaced refs. The Other Kanohi page was full of them, so I chose that one. — SurelNuva (Talk) 17:01, 29 August 2017 (CET)
@Morris, what's gonna happen? — SurelNuva (Talk) 23:33, 8 September 2017 (CET)

I think before making any more changes, we should have a discussion, maybe on the main page talk, about where to go from here in terms of citations. Some people have spoken out in favor of exclusively inline citations, while others have said they want all citations to point to a References section. Best to talk it out, preferably with Dorek and Swert weighing in. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 09:22, 9 September 2017 (CET)

Book citations are fine but anything that's OGD or non-story web-based should be in references. -- Dorek Talk External Image 04:47, 16 September 2017 (CET)
i think having a references section would be good, but i also really like the idea of having in-line references. being able to hover over a reference and see what it is without having to actually click away from what i'm reading is a good thing that shouldn't be taken away haha Intelligence4 (talk) 08:21, 16 September 2017 (CET)

Shadow Spawn Instruction

May I translate your Shadow Spawn Instructions into a PDF File and upload to our wiki, as we did with so many building instructions? — SurelNuva (Talk) 06:22, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Hrm... I'm mildly hesitant because they're "unofficial" instructions, and I don't find it likely Flickr is going down any time soon.
So if you want to put them into a PDF and upload them I don't mind, but maybe leave the link as it is for the time being. -- Dorek Talk External Image 07:29, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Little help on HS01

So, I tried to update the site with the infoboxes at first, And there were no problem with them, but I met with the HeroInfo Template, what I want to replace with an updated Hero Template. But the latest version fot he Hero Template does this. I only wanted to make subtabs for the 1.0, the 3.0 and the Brain Attack tabs, what I managed to do - or I hope so - but the infobox doesn't look like Hahli's or Jaller's, as you can see. What did I miss in the template? The other templates what I updated are working nicely, except that they don't wanna use the "infoLight" or "infoDark" classes, except that, they're working well. — SurelNuva (Talk) 20:19, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm probably not going to have time to work on this for a while. Either way, the code that makes infobox tabs work is outdated on HS01, but I can't update it since I'm not a staff member there, so it's best not to change HS01's infoboxes yet. I'd recommend bringing up redesign ideas with Dorek. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 06:31, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
I wouldn't really know how to handle the coding aspect for updating anything. I can make Morris staff on HS01, if that helps anything. -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:08, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

what do you think you're doing

you betrayed the law --- Creep 05:19, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

at least change the hypen for a / or something, that hypen is eff ugly. --Creep 05:20, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Yeah I'm with Creep here, the hyphen is hideous. We came to this conclusion in the AfC and everything. --Angel Bob (talk) 18:07, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

It was two against one in the talkpage :U

I'll look into it. I'd rather Hydraxon (Duplicate) over slash though. -- Dorek Talk External Image 07:45, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Maybe Hydraxon/Dekar? :D — SurelNuva (Talk) 15:58, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Slashes are out since they're supposed to be configured for subpages (which, as Morris points out, means we need to have a discussion about Chutespeak/Treespeak).
So that leaves what it is now or Hydraxon (Duplicate). I prefer dash, but that's me. -- Dorek Talk External Image 23:52, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Dekar🖊Hydraxon is available... :P -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 00:15, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
Hydraxon (Duplicate).

Or move the real Hydraxon to Original Hydraxon and keep the current one as Hydraxon. --Creep 04:13, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

I've been a little out of the loop, but dekar-hydraxon isn't that bad. we shouldn't take "dekar" out of the title, otherwise people won't be able to find his page when looking for information on the matoran. Intelligence4 (talk) 22:53, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

The Fate of Skull Slicer

I would say Skull Slicer is deceased again because he was crushed by the rubble and he could never have escaped that collapsing arena and come out unscathed. It’s impossible.

(User: Kota9999) Kota9999 (talk) 15:31, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Comic book logic. No body no death!
Even though he was never quite properly alive to begin with (as a Skull Creature, anyway) so I think Unknown covers a lot of bases. -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
I'd also like to add, either Ryder Windham or Martin P. Mann, don't recall who, in their interview told about a scene where Skull Slicer would be flushed out into the chasm, however this was cut, presumably to save time. Though it's not canon, it suggests there was no intent for the collapse of the arena to have killed him. ~ Wolk (talk) 10:16, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
I vaguely remember that. Might be a good thing to cite as a trivia point. -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:33, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Interesting (user:Kota99999)

white backgrounds

If you want, I can put the white backgrounds on the 2016 pics. Just tell me what size you want them and at most 3 days, and i'll have that handled. Thanks for your time --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 11:33, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

If you could keep their original size and just upload it to the same place, that would be fantastic. They're transparent, so it shouldn't be too hard, it's just too much for my little brain at the moment. -- Dorek Talk External Image 19:46, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
sure thing! --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 19:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Looks good to me. -- Dorek Talk External Image 20:01, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Podcast 1-10

First some background. Sevral months ago i was asking Swert about why the podcast Mp3's hadn't been uploaded yet (you can find this on the AFC). He then gave me the MP3's of episodes 1-10. but the actual podcast page doesn't have them yet. so i would like permission to (1) edit that page, and (2) upload the MP3's, since I have good upload speeds and few people on my internet.

Thanks for your time,

--"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 18:42, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Uh, I have no idea how we handle MP3's here. Usually we direct link to something, I don't think we upload? -- Dorek Talk External Image 03:38, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
maybe? Swert said that he was uploading, and where else could it be put? That when you upload an image to be uloaded mp3 is a file option. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 13:26, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
I have no idea, not usually something I muck around with. If Swert said go for it, go for it. -- Dorek Talk External Image 14:58, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
He didn't say to do it, he only said that was what he was tryng to do, and why it hadn't happened. The whole conversation is on the AFC under makutafest archives. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 15:44, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Swert says "go for it". -- Dorek Talk External Image 00:51, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Alright! will do! (thumbs up) --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 15:41, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Hey, I've got a slight problem. I have uploaded all but episodes 7 and 10. I would change the links on the Podcast page, but it's protected so I can't alter it. Can I get permission to alter that page, or do you guys (the staff) want to handle it yourselves. Also Tell Swert that if he wants he can send me via E-mail the rest of the episodes. He has my E-mail through the BS01 account. (as does Spirit) Thanks. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 19:15, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Unprotected for the day, have at. -- Dorek Talk External Image 19:16, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

alright, edited. Let me know if you guys want me to do the rest! --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 20:14, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Something I just wanted to bring to your attention. Those podcasts I uploaded, well when I set up the page, I displayed them as a player, not an MP3 link. On some browsers, you can get the MP3 from that, but on some, you can't. I just was wondering what we should do? Can you link to a file page without causing it to plug in the image, MP3, MP4, and so on?

Set 7716 Why did you delete this set's image (White QUICK Good Guy)?--~ Wolk (talk) 10:40, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Because I replaced it with File:7716.png but never updated the links =P -- Dorek Talk External Image 17:56, 12 May 2019 (UTC)


If Slizers/Throwbots have a page, could the Roboriders also have one? They didn't had that many unique pieces, but their heads were used as various armor pieces for the bionicle franchise. — SurelNuva (Talk) 03:30, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Absolutely! You'll notice I left a redlink at the bottom of the Throwbots page. It's definitely something that can fit all on one page, but one page still. -- Dorek Talk External Image 03:57, 24 May 2019 (UTC)


I've already uploaded this file as File:Jetrax T6 Set.PNG back in 2016. Could you check my uploads please? I've uploaded a lot of CGI images of the sets when I updated the Set pages back then. (I mentioned it on the file's talk page too, but I just want to be sure you'll notice it)SurelNuva (Talk) 03:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Aha, sorry, didn't see it in the gallery. I'll fix it. -- Dorek Talk External Image 04:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
I've just checked. The same thing goes for the playsets. You can't find them in the galleries, because I only used them on the set pages, and didn't put most of them in the galleries. When you changed the pics to the "actual content" images, they were kinda lost :D You'd say I was kinda busy uploading CGI renders at the time. — SurelNuva (Talk) 04:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
The math checks out! For the 07 playsets I'll probably keep them at their original locations since that's where they were cropped from... -- Dorek Talk External Image 05:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


Your deletion of Rhotuka.png broke the Sets/Collectibles. SF (talk) 19:31, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps it's intended to be updated to File:8748 Rhotuka.jpg? ~ Wolk (talk) 20:18, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
That was nominally the intention, although perhaps I will have Swert create something akin to the Krana images instead... -- Dorek Talk External Image 03:18, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Quest for Mata Nui

Hi Dorek, may I ask you whether or nor will we make a page for the new fan game, the Bionicle: Quest for Mata Nui? I'm kinda thorn about it, because it's looking great, and it's far more superior than any other bionicle video that the lego officially released, but it's still not an official lego publiciation of sorts.— SurelNuva (Talk) 16:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think we'll be making a page for it. I also think it looks super cool! But unlike Legend of Mata Nui, it's a wholly original fangame, and doesn't have any sort of LEGO endorsement (and realistically they could issue a takedown notice...). We're definitely keeping an eye on it though! -- Dorek Talk External Image 17:00, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Gallery:BIONICLE: Mask of Creation

I raised this topic on Articles for Deletion, but as it's been some time and the edit was buried, I'll just ask it here: Would you be opposed to my (or generally) moving the Gallery:BIONICLE: Mask of Creation gallery to the page itself and marking the gallery page for deletion? The gallery page has only seven images. BIONICLE: Mask of Control has six, and that gallery is located on the page.

Thanks! Hope you're doing well, --Gonel (talk) 05:03, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that's fine. I'm not a huge fan of on-page galleries but it probably makes more sense if that's all we've got from it. -- Dorek Talk External Image 05:28, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Sounds good. If you'd rather, I could compile the galleries for both G2 games in a single page and have the current page redirect to it.
--Gonel (talk) 22:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
I think separate pages with on-page galleries will be fine for these guys. -- Dorek Talk External Image 22:18, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Legend of Lewa

Quick Question: I'm going through Gallery:Comics and attempting to upload new English versions of those comics (versions that were converted to jpgs from pdfs I got off of BMP) but I keep getting the alert "File extension ".jpg" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/png)." Wasn't sure what to do about this, so I figured I'd ask you.

Also, would you be opposed to my creating a page for Trouble for Tahu as per the Articles of Creation proposal? It's been in AoC for nearly a year, and nobody was opposed to adding the content, either as a separate page or on the same (renamed) page as Legend of Lewa.

--Gonel (talk) 20:40, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh right, I forgot about that. As for the file extensions, I ran into that issue earlier, not sure what the problem was. Try saving it as a PNG instead?
Might as well create a page for Trouble for Tahu, I can always merge them later if that makes more sense. -- Dorek Talk External Image 23:22, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Double-checked with a friend, but we just settled on uploading new versions. Think I've covered all the bases in terms of both of these --Gonel (talk) 05:46, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

TTV contest

I've heard from different sources, that if a winner moc on the TTV contest uses custom/3d printed pieces, it cannot be used on our wiki or on any official lego wiki. Could you confirm that to me or is it just a gossip? How does it affect the contests? — SurelNuva (Talk) 12:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Complicated question! "Can't" is maybe a bit strong, but it does make me really uncomfortable to include non-LEGO parts/designs, especially ones with 3D designs that can be printed, so that's probably my paranoia you hear echoing. There are some safeguards being discussed, so it should end up okay. -- Dorek Talk External Image 05:39, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Ah, okay, thank you so much :D — SurelNuva (Talk) 12:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Inconsistency between Trinuma and the Mask of Charisma

Hello Dorek,

I have noticed an inconsistency between the pages for the Mask of Charisma and Unnamed Species/Trinuma.

The former claims that Trinuma's horns are part of the mask, based on a Greg quote from 2008, while the latter claims that the horns are a part of Trinuma's species, based on a quote from 2014.

By Greg's own rules, the earlier quote takes precedence, so the horns are part of the mask, and Trinuma's species does not have horns.

I have edited the section on Unnamed Species for Trinuma's species, simply removing the claim that they have horns.

I realize now that I should have asked first, to see if there were any protocols that I needed to follow.

So I ask now: are there any protocols I need to follow, now that I have deleted that line and its associated source?

Thank you,

(The preceding unsigned comment was made by The Jerminator)
You've done right, I actually forgot to edit the Unnamed species page, when I found the older Greg quote about the horns and the mask.(you can make your signiture with ~~~~ :) )SurelNuva (Talk) 20:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


Them why not delete the Helryx model, when we could link that one too? Neither of them is how I imagined them, but if they are the inspirational models, they have rights to be here, otherwise, either of the G2 Makuta models could be removed, as they are only inspirational models too.— SurelNuva (Talk) 06:28, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

I would also like to delete the Helryx model as well! I'm not inherently opposed to getting rid of the Makuta models on that basis as well but since those were provided direct from LEGO, I think it's a fair enough difference. -- Dorek Talk External Image 20:00, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
I was under the impression that the only reason the Artakha model was removed and not Helyrx is because Artakha used a 3D printed mask, which I'm iffy on as well. Dag (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
Uhm, if the inspirational models are not count as canon, without the Lego's permission, how could we count the artworks as canon tho? — SurelNuva (Talk) 23:33, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm confused and uncomfortable with this decision, too. I'm as lukewarm about the canon contests as the next person, but these edits just seem to be disobeying the agreements between fan sites due to one admin's personal preference. Not a good day for BS01's claim to objectivity. --Angel Bob (talk) 14:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
As always the particulars are more complex than what everybody sees, but I'll just emphasize that it was not a result of disagreement or dispute between the sites, it's a broader issue about the direction of the website (our website). More to come, I'm sure =) -- Dorek Talk External Image 04:14, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Set 65021

Hey Dorek, The page for Set 65021 should actually be 65025, some higher resolution photos surfaced and you can see the last number is actually a 5. Also do you know anything about the Onua, Pohatu, Tahu, Whenua, Onewa, Vakama counterpart which is assumed to exist? I did some research a few years ago and found at least two more (maybe more I don't remember), Bionicle copacks from 2001 in Lego's database. One is set 65024, the 6 toa pack and I assume the other has to be the rock,earth,fire pack although I haven't found any pictures. Thanks, Whenua (talk) 23:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

If they are in LEGO's database, then we can certainly follow up with that; I'm not seeing them myself, would you mind linking to them? -- Dorek Talk External Image 03:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Question for Lego

So I heard that Lego has been lenient on their copyright policy for retired themes such as Bionicle on the Biomedia Project archives. I’ve been digging into a lost Bionicle game, and unfortunately, I was only able to come up with so many assets on the Internet Archive. I’m thinking about contacting TokenZone’s Email address, for more info on how to remake it, but I won’t be too hopeful, due to the fact that TokenZone is inactive and it’s homepage is now just a static screen with their logo and a line of text, so they either ran out of business by going defunct, or their on some kind of hiatus. My second thought is to go contact some of the employees, but this seems doubtful as well, but I suppose it’s worth a try.

The game in question is Bionicle: Mask of Light on Walt Disney Pictures TokenZone (Disney TokenZone). Some things will have to be worked around with, including removing the multiplayer system that used to be connected to, so users won’t have to sign up, and will have to loose the feature of being able to trade their virtual trading cards with other users.

Another thing that’ll have to be removed is a collapsible list of all of the other Disney TokenZone pages, due to copyright, as well as having to have it set up to remove the account login/sign-up and to instead just have the player automatically signed into the game by default.

We can’t recreate the other Disney TokenZone games, due to copyright, as the other films are owned by Disney, however Bionicle: Mask of Light is rather owned by Lego, and was only distributed by Disney under Buena Vista.

The game has been lost for years, and I’d really like to start an effort to bring it back to fruition. Thanks for reading this, and I look forward to hearing back! - FirespitterVakama 10:26, 19 March 2021 (EST)

I can double check with LEGO to see if they have any assets, but my guess is not; when I've asked around for other older things like that (not game assets, specifically, but just older documents and the like) they're generally not available since they're stored on an older system with limited access - and that's if this in particular was something they would have saved at all. So I'm sure they'd give their blessing (or at least not send a C&D lol) for a recreation, but it'd have to be using what we've got. -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:00, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply and answering my question! Yeah, the main thing I was wondering is if Lego wouldn’t take it down, and I was thinking about seeing if I can get ahold of contacting TokenZone rather than Lego for the assets, but I see where your coming from. But yeah, like you said, I also doubt that Lego themselves preserved the assets just for this game. - FirespitterVakama 10:17, 20 March 2021 (EST)
Especially if some of the game is actually recreation, I'm sure it'd be fine, same reason BMP doesn't get hit with takedown notices lol. If you do hear back from TokenZone feel free to refer them to me for further questions as well if they have any concerns. -- Dorek Talk External Image 17:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Alrighty, will do! Thank you for letting me know! - FirespitterVakama 08:30, 29 March 2021 (EST)

Hypothetical Kanohi

I wanted to personally apologize for the stir I've caused. I was toying with the idea of expanding Other Kanohi, but I didn't intend to implement the changes I'd made without approval. I never imagined that my idea would become so controversial. I want you to know that whatever you decide to do with the page, I'll support it. The last thing I want to do is cause a problem. -- Toa Jala Converse 20:49, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

It's no problem, really! There's just certain lines I feel we need to draw when it comes to what we're declaring as canon, but that's obviously part of the wider discussion that's going on. -- Dorek Talk External Image 21:21, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Are English and Matoran Forms Redundant?

I noticed that in several places on this wiki, there is redundancy, such as "in the Ta-Metru district of Metru Nui." This is in line with the books, but it adds more information than necessary for anyone with limited knowledge of Bionicle or who clicks on the page which can clear up any confusion. I am not suggesting that we require an understanding of Matoran, as we want this to be user-friendly to everyone, but even just leaving things simplified, like in this example, it could just be "in Ta-Metru." Would changes like this be ok? (Example from page "Ta-Metru Foundries") Firespitter Lhii (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, could you maybe give more examples? In general I would agree that with links, that kind of information does end up being redundant, and no other pages that I see do this. But Location pages have always been a weird beast, so I'm not sure how often it comes up. -- Dorek Talk External Image 17:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
"...established themselves in the cables overlooking Le-Metru in Metru Nui."-Cable Crawler page.
Any use of "the Great Spirit Mata Nui" outside of direct quotation.
"...had stolen the Kanohi Avohkii, the mask of Light to further the plan for universe domination."-All Toa Hagah pages.
The are some further examples of this. The last one needs fixing regardless, but would these kinds of phrases warrant change? Firespitter Lhii (talk) 18:54, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I'd think in biography pages it's pretty redundant. Mata Nui is the only one I'm hesitant on, I feel like it's important to be able to distinguish between the being and the island. -- Dorek Talk External Image 01:57, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Proposal in Talk:Elements

I think this proposal belongs in AfC, but I didn't want to move it there without asking a staff member first. -- Toa Jala Converse 18:09, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, I guess we've been using the AfC for that kind of stuff, so sure. -- Dorek Talk 19:14, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Done. -- Toa Jala Converse 21:18, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Just Asking out of Curiosity

Are you no longer an ambassador for Lego? I was kind of wondering since I noticed you don’t include the icon in your signatures anymore. -- FirespitterVakama (talk) 10:41 AM, 5 November 2021 (EST)

That is correct! It's now Kanohi Zatth. I've got a lot on my plate with a graduate degree, so I figured it was best to hand it off to someone who could focus on it a bit more. I'm still around though. -- Dorek Talk 01:42, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Also while I’m asking, I wanted to let you know that I’m hereby presenting this award to you for this month, November 2021:
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FirespitterVakama’s Award of Excellence - November 2021

Congratulations, you have been given this award for showing one of the following:
1.) Helpfulness
2.) Kindness
3.) Importance

Thank you for being here, without you, BIONICLEsector01 wouldn’t be a better place. -- FirespitterVakama

It’s yours if you wish to include it on your page, if not, that’s fine too. I’ll start choosing users every month. -- FirespitterVakama (talk) 10:50 AM, 5 November 2021 (EST)

Aww, thanks! If we ever get around to redesigning the main page I'd love to feature this somehow, we used to have community awards and that was a fun thing to do. -- Dorek Talk 01:42, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
No problem. You definetly deserve it, you’ve treated everyone here well and I couldn’t think of somebody else better, well maybe Swert, he’s also been very helpful, but I guess you two are a tie for me. And on that note I may have just already hinted at who is getting the honor next month lol. -- FirespitterVakama (talk) 08:04 AM, 8 November 2021 (EST)