Talk:Powers
Just pointing it out, Hypnosis and Hypnotism are listed in separate sections of this page (one as a sub-power of psionics, the other as a miscellaneous power). Master Inika (Talk) 21:37, 7 January 2017 (CET)
i wasn't sure how to get to the page for the powers nav box thingie, so i figured this would be as good a place as any - (how do you get to that page?) but why, under the other powers section, are there several makuta powers but not all of them? obviously listing all of them would make it too large, but why are the ones that are listed, listed? Intelligence4 (talk) 22:29, 10 June 2017 (CET)
- to clarify, i'm talking about those listed under the other powers -> standard powers box. perhaps they aren't all specific to makuta, but they seem to be just a bunch of random powers, and i was wondering why those were listed as opposed to others in their place. Intelligence4 (talk) 22:31, 10 June 2017 (CET)
- To access that page, go to Template:PowersNav. Those certain powers (Heat Vision, Laser Vision, Shapeshifting, Anger, and Disintegration, if I recall correctly) are listed because they are the powers that have pages on this wiki. The qualifications for that are pretty random, but generally, the powers that have several/many users have powers, and the other ones don't. --Angel Bob (talk) 08:01, 11 June 2017 (CET)
- ah, i guess that would make sense. thanks for the page location, too :) Intelligence4 (talk)
Three Users Rule?
(I wasn't sure of a better place for this since this discusses multiple power pages.)
Across my time editing the wiki, I've heard references to a "three users rule" for creating pages for powers. From how I understand it, a page must have at least three users of the power in order to justify its existence. But how exactly do we define "user"? I assume it obviously requires someone to actually use the power in the story, not just possess it (although there are exceptions, namely many of the Secondary Elements), but other than that, it's pretty vague.
During the Heat Vision AFD nomination, Zox explained why Power Scream does not have a page:
- "Only difference between these and Power Scream is that--I don't think--Power Scream never really got used by a named, major character who wasn't a Rahi and who stayed relevant to the story across a given year's arc, and when there was technically a character who had it in the given year (Teridax all the time) it wasn't really used by them afaik."
If a "user" is defined as a named, non-Rahi, major character, then the Acid page fails the three users rule because the only users are Lehvak and the Bahrag, unless Cahdok and Gahdok are considered separate users (this has relevance later on). On the other hand, if the Bahrag together are considered a single user, then the only way the page can be justified is to count Keelerak as a user. If Rahi count as users, then a page for Power Scream would be justified by Krahka, Klakk, and Kikanalo alone.
But also, Power Scream was used by named, non-Rahi, major characters: Teridax (as Maxilos),[1] Bitil,[2] Mutran,[3] and Miserix.[4] However, all of these examples are Makuta. So the question is: are all Makuta and Makuta derivatives (Kraata and Rahkshi) considered a single user, or are each Makuta considered separate users, like the Bahrag possibly are? If the Makuta species altogether is considered a single user, then Laser Vision (and possibly Heat Vision, since Tahu is simply a user of the Kraata power) fails the three users rule. Dag (talk) 22:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think it's a hard-rule. With Power Scream, while they're similar powers, it's not really confirmed they are the same; the Rahi are never said to have Power Scream specifically. I usually would consider all users of a Kraata/Makuta power the same, however as mentioned, the vision powers then fail. I would consider Bahrag a similar case, they are just using the Bohrok powers, and likewise, the Rahi Nui using the Kanoka powers. However, Rahi I think are generally valid.