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i think the listed pronunciation here is off too - based on the syllables, anyway. as is, you'd put a hard emphasis on the first vowel sound, when it really should be something like GAR-eye. Intelligence4 (talk) 22:24, 16 September 2017 (CET)

Official is official; we can't do much to change what's in print. -- Dorek Talk External Image 00:23, 17 September 2017 (CET)
Thank you Dorek! — SurelNuva (Talk) 09:25, 17 September 2017 (CET)
yes, but as we've seen before, the beu's pronunciations have been wrong. not to mention, they're not always consistent. i think that damages the credibility enough.
besides, are we really going to rely on a print source for a pronunciation when we have an audio source? (i don't know if we do here, but there are plenty of other examples of that.) Intelligence4 (talk) 21:12, 17 September 2017 (CET)


Currently, the page says that the Garai can either increase or decrease a target's gravitational pull, but none of the sources given indicate that that is all the Garai can do. Greg has said that it can also absorb gravity.1 However, he has also said that the elemental masks cannot absorb their respective element (see the Other Kanohi page). Do we leave both pages as they are now, or go with this absorption quote for both the Garai and elemental masks in general? Dag (talk) 22:55, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

What's more perplexing is that Toa of Gravity (and, as far as we know, all gravity-users) can't absorb gravity. It's a puzzling contradiction, but I don't think it's a problem, since the page itself doesn't say anything about absorption. -- Toa Jala Converse 04:53, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Agreed. I think the combination of Toa not being able to + the statement about EM adds up to a more consistent through-line... but idk. Out of all the elements, Gravity is such a mess. ~ Wolk (talk) 05:12, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Do you have a source that says Toa of Gravity can't absorb their element? The Gravity page doesn't. And yes, while this page doesn't flat out say the Garai can absorb Gravity, the quote is used to say it "can be used on their surroundings." If this quote should be ignored, then there is no longer a citation for that statement. Dag (talk) 16:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

There seems to be older statements than these, but I'm not able to find any; regardless these at least reconfirm it;,17,19 ~ Wolk (talk) 17:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

It's nice to see the absorption problem fixed, but I also just realized another contradiction (which I'll just add onto here since I don't think it needs a new and separate topic). The Garai is currently given as not being able to affect the user, but from the Elemental Masks section, it should give a Toa level control, and Toa of Gravity can affect their own gravity (see Gravity page). Dag (talk) 21:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

So two possible solutions I see here, a) Are Toa of Gravity using their power on themself, or are they using it on the area around them? See,47 (Gravity Flight just doesn't make sense at all.) or b) it's a trait of the masks that hasn't been brought up. For one, we don't really know of other masks that also affect the user and do external things. Toa-level power doesn't necessairly mean they have the same width of powers, as evidenced with the absorption thing, assuming it is true. Another interesting notes--Would they have the "elemental sense" that Toa seems have? Probably not "Always Active," at least, but I assume it derives from the manipulation ability... hmm. ~ Wolk (talk) 00:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)