Talk:Locations/Alternate Locations

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Bionicle 5 alternate use

For explanation on the forthcoming edit. I asked Vartemp to see if the BIONICLE 5 Treatment Greg wrote would be an alt universe. Here at post #12688, Greg said yes it can be. So there you have it. Lord Nektann

The reasoning given last time, which I think still stands, is that by the logic presented, every single eventuality ever is an Alternate Universe, and we just don't have the capacity to note everything, only officially given material in the story. And before we get into semantics about official material, Greg also made a post in a topic (or it might have been a whole topic itself, I can't quite remember) where he listed out a number of universes just to highlight how even tiny changes can lead to a completely different world. He repeatedly used Matoro's sacrifice, and how he could have revived the body without either soul, or not revived the body and everybody died, or he didn't revive the body and only some people died, etc.
Unless seen in the actual story, we can't designate it as an "official" alternate universe, because none of the main universe characters have interacted with it. -- I AM THE DOREK do not truffle with me 10:30, 18 January 2013 (PST)

Dimension of Makuta Mass??

When it has been mentioned that pocket dimension?? --IgniToa 17:38, 18 January 2013 (PST)

Indeed, I have never heard of this before. It isn't on any other page either... ζω·τωμαναexternal image
I Presume it's from a Greg quote. Can anyone confirm its source? external image Chols 19:16, 18 January 2013 (PST)
I'll try and find it soon, but the logic is say Teridax impersonating Dume, the mass from previous forms has to go somewhere.Lord Nektann
Logic... that's not something we see in the BIONICLE story too often =P -- I AM THE DOREK do not truffle with me 10:35, 19 January 2013 (PST)
Also need to bear in minds that science is not strictly followed, so the Law of Conservation of Mass may not apply... although come to think of it, carbon's a bit like real-world Protodermis. [/way too much time studying organic chem] I promise I will remember I will not forget 12:03, 19 January 2013 (PST)

Okay guys. Here at post 148, a question is asked about the Makuta Mass Dimension with it being referenced as a previously known concept. So obviously this is something that people and Greg knew about, which confirms it exists. It's likely classified as a pocket dimension as it is ties to the MU. Lord Nektann

Annona's New World

This is the world imagined by Sahmad and created by the Skakdi Fusion, populated entirely by Annona-likes and now Annona herself (as described in Sahmad's Tale, Chapter 7). I figure we ought to add it, as it's a distinct alternate location. What I'm confused about is whether it should be considered an alternate universe or a pocket dimension, or something else entirely. What do you guys think? --Angel Bob (talk) 21:47, 28 April 2014 (CEST)

Giving this a bump. I guess I should have waited to start this discussion until *after* the massive flood of Farshtey Feed updates, haha. --Angel Bob (talk) 01:43, 29 April 2014 (CEST)

Meaningless Time and Space

That's not a pocket dimension. As I understand it, that's Gali seeing down to the subatomic/quantum levels because of how enhanced her vision is. ζoxHistories external image

I believe it said that her vision was so advanced that it even saw into other dimensions. It seems to be something beyond the atoms. --Boidoh (talk) 04:28, 19 August 2014 (CEST)

Just reread Dark Destiny. They're definitely called dimensions. "Then her sight pierced into other dimensions as well, places where concepts of time and space as she knew them had no meaning." Dark Destiny, p. 51-52 --Willess12 (talk) 04:31, 19 August 2014 (CEST)
I have a hard time qualifying those as dimensions that need mentioning anyway; by their own nature, the fact that time and space have no meaning is NOT their defining characteristic. -- I AM THE DOREK do not truffle with me 06:16, 19 August 2014 (CEST)

Other AUs

I just wanted to say I support that... --Boidoh (talk) 21:02, 11 December 2014 (CET)

Thanks! I felt that we needed a repository for all the miscellaneous AUs mentioned in the saga. If you find any more oblique references to them, feel free to add them to the list. --Angel Bob (talk) 21:03, 11 December 2014 (CET)
Of course, after all, esoteric information is my favorite kind... --Boidoh (talk) 21:05, 11 December 2014 (CET)
Also, should it be mentioned there that every fanfic could be considered an alternate universe? --Boidoh (talk) 21:07, 11 December 2014 (CET)
Absolutely not. --~|RC|~ (Talk/Contribs)
Well, they technically are, but probably shouldn't be considered as such for wiki purposes.--Gresh113, Toa of Air (talk) 22:24, 11 December 2014 (CET)

Bionicle 5 Alternate Universe

Greg Farshtey has confirmed that the events detailed in the Bionicle 5 script treatment occurred in an Alternate Universe, but there is no mention of this alternate universe on BS01. Is there a reason for this?

Because if not, I figure that this alternate universe should have its own page on BS01, as should the script treatment.

How would I go about citing the script treatment? Would a page be created on BS01, with the treatment copy/pasted in, that could then be cited?

Additionally, I figure that the Alternate Universe section of the pages of each of the characters in the script treatment should be updated as well.

Have I missed anything that would be required to bring this Alternate Universe to BS01?

The Jerminator (talk) 20:10, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

The reasoning is at the top of this talk page. Chuckeroo777 (talk) 20:18, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
I probably should have read the rest of this page before starting this discussion. Thanks for pointing that out. I guess that makes sense.--The Jerminator (talk) 20:20, 19 October 2020 (UTC)