Talk:Rua

Source for Power Pack mask being a Rua?

Does anyone know what the original source of the idea that the Power Pack's chrome Hau is a Rua is? All the images of the pack and official descriptions I can find only refer to it generically as a Kanohi mask... Jalaguy (talk) 09:10, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

But actually, it did come from the official description: http://web.archive.org/web/20010624004841/http://www.bioniclemusic.com/eng/music.asp :) — Surel—Nuva _(Talk) 11:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Oh, nice, thanks, forgot that it had its own little website! Jalaguy (talk) 18:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

The shape of Kaita masks

I do not necessarily agree with the recent changes done to the Rua page, although I think some changes to both Kaita masks are indeed needed. I think the whole notion that only one shape is "canon" is incorrect. First of all, the identities of the Toa Kaita including their mask colors and representations (valor, wisdom) were being swapped around a lot back when they were relevant - the MNOG Kaita cutscenes even having mutliple versions with switched names and both masks golden. Even the power pack description lists Aki's powers for Rua. Most sources suggest that it is the color of the mask that matters, and that the shape is only circumstantial. The Bohrok CD - one of the biggest sources of story material covering 2001 and 2002, depicts the Aki and Rua as not having definitive shapes, but instead being any shape out of the six great masks, with color being the only consistent factor. Considering this was done after the "confusion period", I would consider this to be most accurate. The Kaita masks can have any of the six great shapes but Aki is the golden mask of valor, and Rua is the silver mask of wisdom. The golden Hau and Silver Miru are simply the shapes those masks happened to take when Toa Kaita were formed in 2001--ToaKebaka (talk) 11:46, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Greg's quote about the set form of the Rua being canon cannot be used to say the Hau form from the Power Pack is canon. The question presents a false dichotomy between the Power Pack and MNOLG. These are not the only appearances of the Rua, and Greg's statement of "the set" being canon is vague enough that it begs the question: which set? The Wairuha combiner uses a Miru. Even then, the Power Pack product itself doesn't seem to identify the mask as either the Rua or Aki (as far as I can tell, it's never discussed in the actual CD, and the box has on the side in Matoran "Kanohi Hau"). Only the bioniclemusic.com description does, which confuses it with the Aki. Dag (talk) 01:12, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. As adressed on the Toa Kaita page, there was plenty of mix-ups and back and forths on which combiner had which name and which title and which color of mask during 2001, but outside of Heroes (which reads like it's written by a fan), it is evident what ended up being settled on in the end (even if entirely mixed up after that game of telephone). ~ Wolk (talk) 01:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC)