Talk:Kraahkan
Immoral
I'd sort of file that under "no duh", personally. -- Dorek Talk 
18:07, 4 December 2014 (CET)
Should we have a separate page that lists immoral Kanohi?--Gresh113, Toa of Air (talk) 21:30, 4 December 2014 (CET)
Or at least a catergory--Gresh113, Toa of Air (talk) 22:53, 4 December 2014 (CET)
- Ooh, good idea! Personally, I'd file an Immoral Kanohi category under "no duh". --Angel Bob (talk) 23:51, 4 December 2014 (CET)
- A category would be an interesting idea... AfC it.
- The idea of immoral Kanohi is patently ridiculous, but since it keeps being a thing, might as well. I just thought the Kraahkan was very obviously one because it's power is evil incarnate. The original trivia points were included specifically because explanation was needed to elaborate as to why (because, as mentioned, the whole idea falls apart the more you think about it). -- Dorek Talk 07:01, 5 December 2014 (CET)
- The idea of immoral Kanohi is patently ridiculous, but since it keeps being a thing, might as well. I just thought the Kraahkan was very obviously one because it's power is evil incarnate. The original trivia points were included specifically because explanation was needed to elaborate as to why (because, as mentioned, the whole idea falls apart the more you think about it). -- Dorek Talk
But remember, Makuta wear Kanohi too, it's not just Toa--Gresh113, Toa of Air (talk) 14:40, 5 December 2014 (CET)
Enslaved Matoran
Does anyone know where has the information that the Kraahkan were made by enslaved Matoran came from? I only found info on the Toa Hagah's masks were made by enslaved matoran.— Surel—Nuva (Talk) 12:49, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- The first encyclopedia. Added the reference. Master Inika (Talk) 15:19, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks! I didn't read or have the original, and the updated version doesn't mention it, because the Bionicle: World revealed that it was actually made on Artakha, between the two encyclopedia releases.— Surel—Nuva (Talk) 16:19, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Pakari + Vahi
Does anyone have a reference for that trivia point? It seems plausible and certainly explains a lot, but I've never heard it before. Master Inika (Talk) 04:17, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- It's basically the pieces of prototype makuta found on ebay combined with the concept arts.--Surel (Talk) 06:28, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- So I do like this theory, and I do believe it, but it would be good practice to cite a concrete source, such as a designer, or if we can't, then at least rephrase the statement.
- Something like "The unique shape of the Kraahkan as depicted in the Miramax trilogy has been speculated to be based on a prototype of the first Makuta set. An ebay listing [link to the listing if we can find it] in [year] purporting to be a Makuta prototype featured a black Pakari Nuva and a Vahi which was partially spray-painted black in such a way that the two masks appeared to have been previously glued together. Concept art [link? image] from [source] appears to support this theory."
- Again, I don't really doubt that this is true, I just think it would be best practice for a relatively recent tidbit like this to be thoroughly documented and cited so there's no confusion. A lot of people seem to be under the impression that it was a regular Pakari for example. It would be great if we could find the listing, the concept art, verify the authenticity of the ebay listing, etc. Maybe some of this has been done and I just haven't seen it? Takhamavahu
18:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Again, I don't really doubt that this is true, I just think it would be best practice for a relatively recent tidbit like this to be thoroughly documented and cited so there's no confusion. A lot of people seem to be under the impression that it was a regular Pakari for example. It would be great if we could find the listing, the concept art, verify the authenticity of the ebay listing, etc. Maybe some of this has been done and I just haven't seen it? Takhamavahu
Mask of Power
I saw the Ultimate Dume version being referred to as the Mask of Power on the latest Mask of Destiny post, which sounded familar. Bricklink also identifies it as being called the Mask of Power. Neither the set description for 10202 Ultimate Dume from the Sep-Oct 04 Magzine or Shop@Home mention this. I also considered it being on the box, but it is at very least not mentioned on the front. Any idea where it may be from? ~ Wolk (talk) 18:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Bricklink isn't really a good source for these things as they just use whatever terminology they think of in the moment, and nothing about MoD trying to sell you something should be construed as an official thing either. Is there any particular reason why it needs to be called a Mask of Power? -- Dorek Talk 22:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- No, if it's a fabrication or misinterpretation by Bricklink, then that's that. Yes, Bricklink is horrible as a source for this stuff, I'm mostly just curious where they got that idea from; i.e. if it was advertised as such somewhere.
On another note, per Peeron, it sounds like the "exclusive" mask was included in Set:8713... http://www.peeron.com/inv/sets/8713-1 ~ Wolk (talk) 23:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- No, if it's a fabrication or misinterpretation by Bricklink, then that's that. Yes, Bricklink is horrible as a source for this stuff, I'm mostly just curious where they got that idea from; i.e. if it was advertised as such somewhere.
- It was referred to as a "mask", I just dunno if the specific phrase "mask of power" was used. Also it is entirely possible that it was included in that bucket, but I'm not sure if Peeron's inventory is necessarily accurate either. And I think some of those tubs got different parts depending on what was in stock anyway, so might have been a fluke. But then again given that the set was TRU exclusive maybe that was the only way Europe could get it, idk. I would need some other corroboration first though. -- Dorek Talk 04:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)