Talk:Hau

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Okay, so I have an odd question. Today, as I was reading the third BIONICLE comic, Triumph of the Toa, I noticed that, when Kopaka uses the mask of shielding, there is not a large, spherical shield around him, but rather a Kopaka-shaped shield just inches from him. This made me realize that the only times a Hau besides the Nuva version is used in visual media are this comic, MNOG, LOMN, and a later comic in which Tahu uses it while in an Exo-Toa (and clearly the Exo-Toa affected the Mask's power there). MNOG is known to contain other contradictions with canon, but could it be possible that the shield this mask forms is skin-tight around the user? If so, is Lhikan's mask special somehow? I'm not sure how "canon" the movies and comics are considered, but both portray this mask's power differently.--Willess12 (talk) 02:28, 6 June 2015 (CEST)

Why would the Exo-Toa have boosted the mask power? All it did was hamper the elemental abilities (and otherwise just be a boss suit of armor).
Anyway, in this case, it's just different interpretations of what a shield would be. Some comics show booster feet jets for depicting the Miru even though that's ridiculous. Whatever the artist feels like doing to convey the action. -- Dorek Talk External Image 16:42, 7 June 2015 (CEST)

Lhikan's Hau

Is it possible that Toa Lhikan wore a Noble-shaped Great Hau? Because the set version of his Hau is more similar to the Noble version than the great one in the LoMN. Or was it just ornate and the movie doesn't matter? -- Surel-Nuva (Talk) 19:59, 2 November 2016 (CET)

Greg's answer has generally been that Lhikan just had a fancy Hau. It might make more sense that his Hau was Noble-shaped, but the wiki yields to what Greg says. If someone asked him on the LMBs and he changed his mind, then maybe. --Angel Bob (talk) 20:03, 2 November 2016 (CET)
To add to the confusion even more, Jaller wore Lhikan's Noble Hau as a Matoran, but it looked like a Great Hau. So it seems like the Noble form of Lhikan's mask looked like a normal Great version. (Or, if you go by the movies, the mask had a different design when it was on Turaga Lhikan's face versus Jaller's face.) Anyway, it seems like there's more to it than Lhikan simply having a Noble-shaped mask. (Also I think that's the sort of thing the community would not want canonized. Especially given the backlash to how the Turaga Lhikan set was canonized.) -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 01:49, 3 November 2016 (CET)

Greg just confirmed that it's likely the Toa Nuva returned Lhikan's Hau to Jaller at some point, should we add that to the page? [1] --LavaringX (talk) 20:29, 17 February 2017 (CET)

Actually, it should be. -- SurelNuva (Talk) 21:39, 17 February 2017 (CET)

According to this response by Greg, Lhikan's Hau(it doesn't specify whethter it's his mask as a Toa or Turaga, but they are the same piece in the sets, which are the highest level of canonicity, and all other depictions that are canon are said to be artistic stylizations and not contradictions) is the shape of a Noble Hau on Metru Nui. It isn't totally clear on the wording, as he seems like he is and might soley be talking about the character himeself when he says "On Metru Nui...", as it is about the mask, and we know it took on the Metru Nui standard shape for a Hau when Jala put it on on Mata Nui, so it may or may not also be saying that Metru Nui used that design for its own Noble Hau, but either way, he seems to be saying that the mask is in the shape of a Noble Hau, and with the canon 'set' model of his Turaga form(which was already canonized completely 3 year before he said this) and Toa form having the same mask shape, it means that regardless of if he had his Turaga or Toa form in mind, they both are in the shape of a Noble Hau(at least for some design of it). I also think that this we should change the Kanohi image for the noble Hau, as it is the only one we use a movie image for(though maybe that's proper, since Gold Good Guy is technically a canonized model and not an official set), but I'll ask that over there. Firespitter Lhii (talk) 15:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

The promotional set was always Turaga Lhikan. It was designed to be, intended to be released in 2005, delayed until 2006. Greg said as much at the time, but it seems fans forgot. Ultimately, the Hau piece was designed for his Toa form with the intent of being a translation of the Lhikan's Hau from the movie, which is in turn just a translation of the original 2001 Hau. It's basically "movie edition". The use in the promotional set is just a reuse because promotionals reuse parts. Nonetheless, it was written in that the mask is an ornate style from another land, established in Greg quotes during 2004 already (and is even mentioned in BIONICLE: Heroes). A quote from 2015 does not have the ability to change this. ~ Wolk (talk) 16:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

adaptive hau picture

currently, we have the image of the adaptive hau set to be the one from tahu's 2010 set, but that looks just like his 2001 set. shouldn't that image be changed to be his 2008 mask or something else that shows it shapeshifted a little?(The preceding unsigned comment was made by Intelligence4)

No, because that'd be a shapeshifted adaptive Hau Nuva. ~ Wolk (talk) 16:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Te reo Māori meaning of the word Hau

Whilst the word Hau can mean "hit" in te reo Māori, the more likely meaning that has more parallels with the functions of the Kanohi Hau in it's usage as the "aura" or vitality of person, place or object (The preceding unsigned comment was made by YRN.te.ao)

I think it would be best to have both meanings on the page, since both seem relevant to its power.--ToaKebaka (talk) 13:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)