Talk:Venom Eel
Venom Eels are Rahi
While looking through Wall of History for the discussion on the Zatth and Ancient Sea Behemoth, I came across certain passages from the books that I think are definitive enough to say that the Venom Eels are Rahi. First, BL7 Chapter 2:
- "Jaller had to summon his flame to provide enough light for the Toa to see. What the glow revealed was the amazing sight of thousands of keras crabs crawling out of the fields they had been infesting. They weren’t fleeing but backing slowly away from the stalks of airweed, then stopping about twenty yards from the fields. The crabs stood right on the edge of the landmass, their backs to the black water. Then they were joined by other creatures — sharks, squid, venom eels, rays, and other Rahi of the deep. The beasts made no threatening moves, just hovered in the water, silently regarding the Toa."
"And other Rahi," as in Rahi in addition to the ones already listed. This suggests that the Barraki armies were made up entirely, or at the very least mostly, of Rahi, which is supported by that one Greg quote about Makuta's Rahi Control being able to influence any of the six armies. Second, BL7 Chapter 6:
- "He and Kalmah made for the latter’s cave, passing the 'squid farm' on the way. Carapar would never had admitted it, but he always found this place a bit disturbing. Kalmah had discovered the existence of the sea squid shortly after the Barraki's escape from imprisonment. They were unlike any creature the warlords were familiar with. For one thing, they had no armor or mechanical parts; they were purely organic tissue. For another, they did not come into being in a normal way, but rather were hatched from spheres with a thin, white surface."
The Barraki were already aware of Venom Eels (they mention the giant Venom Eel in just the previous paragraph), so this suggests that Venom Eels were biomechanical. Dag (talk) 15:45, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Are the squid (and potentially the rays) Rahi? I thought the squid were explicitly not Rahi, the Giant Squid at the very least is a Creature. The Venom Eel/Lava eel analogy is definitely compelling, but I more read the quote as saying "and ALSO other Rahi of the deep". Curses to the Oxford comma.
Also the Sea Squid quote seems to be more read in the past; this discovery happened already, so they would have seen the giant venom eel in context after discovering how the sea squids are organic, unless I'm misreading the sequence of events.
Mostly what gives me pause is Greg's refusal to substitute Rahi as a descriptor for it in the books, compared to his frequent usage of the word for both Gadunka and Spinax, as mentioned in the other topic. It's definitely possible that it is a Rahi based on some of the background evidence, but it also seems like Greg avoided identifying it as such when there were opportunities to do so. -- Dorek Talk 18:42, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- The vampiric squid used in the launchers are not, but Kalmah used Giant Squids primarily in his army (when I researched this a while back for "Rahi Control Error," I couldn't find any confirmation that Giant Squids were in fact Creatures). At least one Rahi squid is confirmed to be in his army [1][2]. Dag (talk) 18:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- On the Rahi squid from the book, the BIONICLE Ignition 6 depicts the said squid as a generic Sea Squid, which spots the mask and then swims to Kalmah to tell him what it saw, if it matters.--SurelNuva (Talk) 21:30, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting, though I'd wager that Sayger was just told it was a squid, so he drew the only one he had (or maybe he was told by Lego to change it to the sea squid to show off the sets more, idk). Either way, there's nothing from Greg or published sources stating the Giant Squid to be a Creature, but one quote suggesting it to be a Rahi (not counting the other quotes about the six armies generally being Rahi), so I'll make the change there too. Dag (talk) 00:31, 24 May 2024 (UTC)