Talk:Golden Kanohi
I have no idea where I'm sourcing this from, but I remember reading somewhere that only one mask power could be used at a time. Does anyone else remember anything like that, or something in story to prove or disprove this? Intelligence4 (talk) 01:13, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- Well, in the Bohrok Online Animations, for instance, they're shown manually switching between mask shapes to use that power. I don't think there's an instance of them ever combining powers; I've always thought it was one at a time (although that doesn't seem to be the case with the Rua and Aki). -- Dorek Talk
17:31, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
- i just always assumed that the animations did that to demonstrate that they were using that power, since there wasn't really any other way to do it, and there wasn't any audio dialogue in them. I wonder if it's a consequence of convenience that they never combined them, or an actual limitation of the masks themselves. like we never saw them shielding themselves while speeding - did they just never feel the need to do that, or were they unable to? Intelligence4 (talk) 00:49, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- I would assume the latter, but I'm open to a Greg quote proving me wrong. My assumption is that combining powers would be overpowered for the story; even when they had their Nuva masks, they could still only combine them with someone else using one simultaneously. If Kakama+Miru=jet engine, I don't think any one Toa ever achieved flight alone, only in a group. -- Dorek Talk 03:14, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- I would assume the latter, but I'm open to a Greg quote proving me wrong. My assumption is that combining powers would be overpowered for the story; even when they had their Nuva masks, they could still only combine them with someone else using one simultaneously. If Kakama+Miru=jet engine, I don't think any one Toa ever achieved flight alone, only in a group. -- Dorek Talk
- I recall that the Miru and Kakama used in conjunction allow for flight, but the Miru alone does not. I do not recall the specifics (i.e. if this was by using a gold Kanohi, or by a Miru Nuva and Kakama Nuva user sharing their powers with each other) and I do not remember the source, but I am 90% sure it was said that the Kakama and Miru together can be used for flight. Turaga of Force (talk) 13:05, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Noble Masks
So, of course the Golden Masks do not contain the noble mask powers, however Pohatu is seen using it. Greg generally seems unsure on this topic. One idea, that was neither rejected or confirmed, is that they may still be able to call on their regular noble masks (https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page28#post1102-line3-5,8) (which would have been handed to the Turaga at that point, (https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page7#post279-line4) but perhaps the Turaga would use the same Suva?). Another interesting note is that this is the Komau, which is Onewa's mask--there would be a spare of the Komau in the case of the Po-bois, and same for each of the other Turaga masks... ~ Wolk (talk) 18:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- So the Golden Kanohi were at least 2 times described to only have the 6 Mata mask powers. Also both the official guide and Hapka's novel confirmed that only the six type of "Mata" mask were exchanged for the golden masks. The Official Guide further confirmed that the Turaga had noble masks in the koros and Makuta's Rahi stole them, and these sets of 6 noble masks were found and used by Toa Mata in both the Mata Nui Online Game and the Bohrok Online Animations. If it is not a confirmation that the golden noble masks are just color-errors, then nothing is. I don't want to be unnecessary rude or something, I've had to explain this for thousands of time to different people, and it just triggers me ever since then.--Surel-Nuva (Talk) 18:53, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- I made the initial edit because I had completely forgotten about Pohatu's use of the "golden" Komau in the Bohrok Animations until then and saw no mention of it on this page, either as correct (that the Golden masks do contain the powers of the Nobles) or as incorrect in the Trivia section, nor did it have a citation for the Golden masks containing only the six Great masks. I also did a quick (though not anywhere near exhaustive) check in the BEU before making the edit, but didn't see anything against it at the time. Despite still figuring there was some reason I was probably wrong, I made the change anyway because I knew either the edit would stay because it was correct, or it was wrong and would incentivize someone else to come along and correct it, adding a citation where there wasn't one at all before, which you did. Dag (talk) 20:06, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Toa Statues
This article says that the Toa received their gold Kanohi by placing their other Kanohi on statues of themselves, citing Cathy's book. However, in 2007, Greg strongly implied that Cathy Hapka's depiction of the Toa receiving their gold Kanohi is not canon. Here is an exact quote from a PM I still have in my inbox: Me: "Just one question, are Hapka's books 100% canon?" Greg: "I would say 90% canon, as I know her "getting the gold masks" scene differs from what was told elsewhere." Turaga of Force (talk) 12:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)