Talk:Teridax
Beware the Bohrok
- And they would see to it that Makuta never again troubled this beautiful island - if he even bothered to try. Was this the end of their battles against the darkness? Tahu wondered.
- Not the end, Toa. The words hung in the air - not as if they'd been spoken, but as if they'd always existed, independent and alone. This is only the beginning.
^These are the last two paragraphs of BIONICLE Chronicles 2: Beware the Bohrok. I tried to keep the selection short due to copyrights. Someone recently said that Teridax spoke at the end of this book, but, to me, it seems intentionally ambiguous. I know there is a YouTube group reading aloud the chapter books, so maybe they interpreted Makuta as the last speaker and the wiki editor heard their reading. Without clarity from the word format present in the print edition, I could see that happening. Toa Magnemite (talk) 06:00, 26 November 2014 (CET)
Teridax Sets
Are there 3 or 4 sets that depict Teridax? I'm asking this because I'm not sure if Turaga Dume & Nivawk counts? Does this set represents Dume, Teridax, or both? Remember, it's unknown if Dume even had a relation with Nivawk... --BIONICLE 4EVER (talk) 20:52, 14 February 2016 (CET)
- Nivawk was Teridax's "pet"... I think it represents both. According that page: "Turaga Dume, whom Teridax was impersonating, was also released in 2004". -- Surel-nuva (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2016 (CET)
native instructions
surel (i think it was him) brings up a good point: if we have the instructions for a set hosted natively on this site, then why don't we just use those instead of linking to lego's site for the instructions? in my opinion, we should do both; link to our stuff here, and then also provide the lego link under the external links section b/c it's still relevant imo.(The preceding unsigned comment was made by Intelligence4)
- Check my talk-page, It was discussed. I didn't have enough time yet to shift 'em.— Surel—Nuva (Talk) 21:53, 29 August 2017 (CET)
naming day!
when did we first hear about teridax's name? aside from "makuta"? Intelligence4 (talk)
- Greg revealed it on BZP I think. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 07:40, 24 September 2017 (CET)
- In 'officially released printed media' - as long as I'm right - was in the third chapter of the BL9: Shadows in the Sky (page 35). — Surel—Nuva (Talk) 13:15, 24 September 2017 (CET)
- The BL9 was published on March 1, 2008, the TMC's chapter five was published on March 22, 2008 (if the wayback machine's first archived page of the fifth chapter of the TMC is right). — Surel—Nuva (Talk) 21:25, 24 September 2017 (CET)
- Ah, that would explain why I didn't recall that - I didn't get any of the books in 2008, I was just active on BZP, and so the first time I saw the name was in TMC. That was the case for a lot of other fans as well, who kept asking Greg "Is Teridax the MoMN?", until he eventually clarified that in the OGD. --Angel Bob (talk) 05:29, 28 September 2017 (CET)
thanks guys. what about the fact that there were other makuta, and that makuta was actually a species, not just one dude our favorite heroes had been fighting? all i remember/can find is that they showed up in various media in 2008 - but i don't remember/can't find any formal introduction or anything. Intelligence4 (talk) 00:13, 28 September 2017 (CET)
- The dates for that are a lot murkier. We knew there were multiple Makuta in 2007, since Icarax himself shows up, and several storyline sources refer to the concept (for example, in Toa Nuva Blog, Onua mentions "a Makuta named Icarax", and in Downfall, Hydraxon recognizes Teridax as a Makuta - I'm sure there are other mentions I'm forgetting). Furthermore, people had suspected Makuta was a member of a species for a while before then (his line in LOMN, "Join my brothers and me", set off a lot of theorizing), but I do not actually know when Greg/another source confirmed there are multiple Makuta. (I assume it was before the writing started referring to multiple Makuta, as otherwise that would have been very abrupt and confusing.) If I had to guess, I'd say BIONICLE: World is a likely candidate for the confirmation. --Angel Bob (talk) 05:26, 28 September 2017 (CET)
- Yees, the world does mention it. And in the BEU it is mentioned that the Makuta is a title and the name of his (Teridax's) species. — Surel—Nuva (Talk) 22:53, 28 September 2017 (CET)
- is there a digital copy of that (bionicle: world) floating around anywhere? that's like the one book i haven't been able to find and read. everything else has online copies, except that one... Intelligence4 (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- I still have not found any copies of the Rahi Beasts or the Dark Hunters, or the Mata Nui Guide or the Metru Nui city guide, (not talking about the G2 books) could you help me? I only have a hungarian translation of the BIONICLE: World. — Surel—Nuva (Talk) 00:47, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- "i'm not talking about the g2 books"
- i like to pretend those don't exist lol
- for those books, i don't think i have access anymore, but i may not have read those at all - i guess i forgot about them haha. as far as finding them, i mostly just google for "book title pdf" and go from there. it's often a rabbit hole that you'll fall down haha. sorry i'm not more helpful :( Intelligence4 (talk) 22:45, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
A Most Interesting Piece of Information
It seems that Greg has an idea what would have happened if Teridax succeeded in his cosmic conquest, this could be put in the trivia section.
Here is the link https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2008-2010/page252#post10080
This is quite the information. In the event of a sequel or continuation of the original Bionicle story he can may very well return once more to be Bionicle’s greatest villain once again. The greatest villains never do stay completely dead do they?
Makuta of Mata Nui (talk) 07:34, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Moon Fragment
I know this was a big debate back in the day and the dust has settled in favor of Aqua Magna, but I'd like to make the case that the moon that killed Teridax should either be listed as a fragment of Bota Magna or as an unidentified fragment.
As far as published sources go, both Journey's End and the Mata Nui Saga depict it as Bota Magna. The comic is the main argument in favor of Aqua Magna, but I think there's a few issues with that. First, the text of the comic says Mata Nui was pushing Teridax "toward the northern reaches of Bara Magna", which would be in the direction of Bota Magna. Second, the fragment is clearly rocky in texture, so the blue coloring would only suggest Aqua Magna if the seafloor was also blue.
Then there's Greg quotes. I've compiled all relevant ones I could find:
The most consistent thing he says is that Teridax was hit by a fragment, not an entire moon. [1][2][3] He also makes it clear that the identity of the moon wasn't specified in the story bible and he personally didn't think it mattered which one it was.[4][5] There's also this, but it's five years after the fact and not definitive.
This quote explains more of what was going on behind the scenes:
There is some evidence for Aqua Magna however:
"A fragment of one of the moons, based on the coloring, probably Aqua Magna"
Overall, I think the evidence for Bota Magna is far greater than the evidence for Aqua Magna, and there's also a case to be made for not identifying the moon at all, as Greg suggests. I'm sure I missed stuff though, and I'm curious if anyone else has thoughts on this. -Skello 06:51, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Teridax in the Future
In a vision sent by Krakua, it is said that he was not able to complete his message because Makuta Teridax remove the "Kratana" from his head. This means that the message was either sent at some unknown point within the Matoran Universe along with a major plotline, which would mean that the message did not occur in the future and needs to be clarified on the Krakua page, or sent from the future after the reformation, which means we need to include that Teridax gets revived, or that this is from an alternate timeline/future, which also needs to be mentioned. While I'm sure Greg must have answered this question at some point, but unless we can find it, we need to make a decision on this. Firespitter Lhii (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)