Talk:Barbed Broadsword

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That's ironic from me, since I was the one, who put that note on the page, but since the TTV technically asked Greg, whether Tuyet had a sword a sword or not, refering kind of out of context way to the Barbed Broadword, and Greg said yes her tool was a sword. Should we count the answer as the Barbed Broadsword, saying Greg remembered that Teridax impersonating Tuyet wieled that sword, or not? Over the time I started to feel responsible for that, and for all the drama around the sword on the abandoned contest.--SurelNuva (Talk) 05:06, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

I think it's highly doubtful Greg remembered anything about the barbed broadsword, given that it was a minor detail in a serial he wrote more than ten years ago, so we shouldn't consider his answer to mean that main universe Tuyet wields the same weapon. TuragaHordika (talk) 05:34, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

This time I was double checking the Greg archives, somebody asked if we're gonna learn her weapon, and Greg said it'll be on the Bioniclestory.com, probably from Into the Darkneas, but then he said he didn't determine it since he didn't need it for the story, both of these were before Dark Mirror was a thinf. Then he said "When she shows up in story", then Dark Mirror came and nobody questioned about it again, just about the barbs. Everybody just accepted that her tool was the same as the Empress Tuyet's counterpart.--SurelNuva (Talk) 10:28, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Actually, I'd take it further. The only reason people infer the barbed broadsword to be her Toa tool is because of the expectation that it would be revealed "soon." This is compounded by the transcriber of Dark Mirror choosing to capitalize it as if it's a special/unique weapon like a Toa tool. BS01 shares this mentality by stating matter-of-factly that it was her tool in the Toa Empire universe (funny how the infobox only mentions Tuyet as a user, not Teridax, who was the one who actually wielded it). The problem is that the text does not actually say that. All it says is that Teridax while disguised as Tuyet wielded it. If it truly was meant to be implied to be Tuyet's Toa tool, then why did Teridax have it? Did Tuyet retire it after coming into possession of the Nui Stone (which could also explain why it's not mentioned in TMDoTT)? Did Tuyet still have it, making the one Makuta had a duplicate/replica? Was it actually Teridax's weapon in that universe? Or was it just a random weapon Teridax found in the Archives (perhaps from the collection of weaponry mentioned in Chapter 3)? My point is not to argue for one option over the others, but that any option would be a guess. If that is what we want to avoid as a wiki, then we can't say it was Toa Empire Tuyet's tool anymore than it was prime Tuyet's.

PS: Where in Chapter 9 does it say it was lost after Tuyet followed Takanuva through the portal? Regardless of whether it was still in her possession, it's doubtful she still had it on her person. Chapter 8 introduces her with the Nui stone in one hand, and the Olmak in the other. Dag (talk) 15:31, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

I believe the whole "lost after Tuyet died" thing came from fan assumption that Tuyet had the sword on her while fighting Takanuva, abeit not mentioned.--SurelNuva (Talk) 15:35, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Dark Mirror is a podcast, so the decision to capitalize it is a fan one, at that. ~ Wolk (talk) 21:56, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

On the other hand, when people asked about Tuyet's barbed broadsword Greg didn't correct them that it was just a weapon Teridax used to mimic Tuyet. And he had a habit of correcting information like this, especially about his own characters.--SurelNuva (Talk) 06:07, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

At most it's an argument from silence. I've only found three questions about the broadsword, and they're all only asking about it's appearance [1] [2] [3], so maybe Greg didn't think to correct them, IDK. If only someone had asked "hey, since this sword was actually wielded by Makuta, is it really Tuyet's Toa tool, and if so, is it also her Toa tool in the prime universe?" but no one did because they already just assumed so. Dag (talk) 16:13, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, that's makes the whole thing weird to me too. We just accepted that without thinking, and now it's a headache.(at least for me)--SurelNuva (Talk) 16:19, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

One thought I had was that it's possible Greg said something in the BZP news discussion forum for Chapter 4 about the sword, but since it wasn't archived, we'll never know. I also tried to search for Wayback screenshots of old BS01 for any discussions there, but that also turned up nothing, except that it was already listed as Tuyet's weapon pretty much as soon as Chapter 4 released. Dag (talk) 01:21, 12 March 2025 (UTC)