Talk:Morbuzakh
Shouldn't the "sponge Morbuzakh" be in a "set information" section? (The preceding unsigned comment was made by Datadoggieein)
Probably, but I don't really know. - FROGGER0 12:21, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
Toa of the Green
Considering this was a plant, wouldn't a toa of the green (still think they should have been called toa of wood :p) have been able to control it? unless maybe they can only control non-sentient plants? why would makuta teridax decide that a plant creature was the best way to attack the city when there was a toa of wood plantlife living there? can we just chalk that up to a plot hole/out of universe explanation (that we didn't know one of the mangai was a bo-toa until way after the morbuzakh ark)?
idk, i just thought this was an interesting bit of food for thought/discussion topic - that one of the main baddies for a while was a plant, and there are heroes that can control plants, yet the main heroes and literally all the NPCs struggled for so long to figure out a solution to the problem. Intelligence4 (talk) 06:18, 15 May 2017 (CET)
- Keep in mind, at the same time Teridax was deploying the Morbuzakh, he was also killing off the Toa Mangai. Perhaps the Bo-Toa was the first to go. --Angel Bob (talk) 22:24, 15 May 2017 (CET)
- I wonder what the timeframe was on that. but you're probably right - the bo-toa was first to go. i wonder if teridax ever thought about blaming the bo-toa for the rampant plantlife problem - he readily blammed the toa metru for the disappearance of toa lihkan, so maybe part of his plan was to say that the bo-toa went rouge before "skipping town" aka before terry killed him.
- on a somewhat related note, we know that the morbuzakh was kidknapping matoran, and while they weren't seen or heard from again, we know they were really being put into spheres to have their memories wiped. I wonder if, when everyone got to mata nui (the island) those matoran lost their memories faster than the others. Or, if before everyone's memory was totally gone, those matoran who had been lost were able to be reunited with their friends, and everyone eventually figured out where those matoran went. Intelligence4 (talk) 21:19, 20 May 2017 (CET)
- you're probably right haha. I don't really use tumblr much these days though; there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of interesting stuff going on there anymore. Intelligence4 (talk) 21:52, 20 May 2017 (CET)
Tales of the Masks
Quote from Tales of the Masks, page 415-416: "[Gali] had spotted a carving on the rock wall. It showed the six [Toa Metru], this time in a valiant struggle against... what? It might have been some many-armed sea creature, or perhaps some other Rahi they had never seen before. One thing was certain – they were in a place of fire." To me this seems like a reference to the Morbuzakh root in the Great Furnace. Since the stone carvings were probably not that detailed, it is not unlikely that Gali mistook the sentient plant for a creature. BlueSwede92 (talk) 16:33, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- For it was carved in the BIONICLE Adventures 5, after the Toa Metru's battle with the First Rahi (one of these looked like a Seaweed), presumably, Nokama depicted the battle with them. "A place of fire" could be another word for the "battlefield" in that case. — Surel—Nuva (Talk) 16:37, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
- Based on the next sentence, it would seem "place of fire" was meant literally: "'Impossible!' said Tahu. 'If such beings ever roamed Ta-Wahi, I would know of it.'" I haven't read the Metru Nui books yet so it could still be refering to a battle that I don't know of. But since the book was written in 2003 and serves as a sort of introduction to the Metru Nui storyline, I find it most logical that it refers something that happened early in the Metru Nui storyline. BlueSwede92 (talk) 03:49, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- It seems most likely that it was the Morbuzakh, because at the time Greg was writing Tales of the Masks, he knew the Morbuzakh was coming up soon in 2004 material. I doubt that he had any conception of the First Rahi at that time. I don't think we can definitively say that this carving depicted the Morbuzakh, or that this counts as a mention of it; but we could mention this in a trivia point on the page, certainly. --Angel Bob (talk) 04:52, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- i agree - most likely the morbuzakh. Intelligence4 (talk) 22:54, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- When Greg was writing the Tales of the Masks he hinted that the Toa Metru battled with the Rahi Nui at once, what exactly happened in the BA6 Maze of Shadows. Because of that, the first Rahi idea is still an option. — Surel—Nuva (Talk) 12:36, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
- I am 96% sure that Greg won't remember but maybe if someone asks him in the TTV forums and quotes that segment maybe he can clarify? For me it sounds like the Morbuzakh, sounds like foreshadowing which Greg did a lot in the last books of the year. --Creep 18:54, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
I think we can safely say this was the morbuzakh. it fits the physical description - "many arms" - and the great furnace was a place of fire. given the importance of elements in the bionicle universe, i think that's quite literal, and not referring to a battlefield of any old sort - especially since the fight with mavrah's rahi was in what could be called a place of water. Intelligence4 (talk) 23:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)