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Comprehensive best order of consumption?

Hey guys, it's been eons since I interacted with Bionicle in as much depth as I did pre-2010 (like geez that was almost a third of my life ago). So I was wondering, has someone ever made a list that documents the best order of consumption for all the canon and/or semi-canon media (books, serials, animations, etc.) of the original universe? If not I would think it would be a useful guide to have here on this wiki for both all the newcomers to Bionicle who want to explore the original universe, as well as all of the old(er) people like myself who have started to forget things. Thoughts on this suggestion? -- External Image (Toa Zoxim/IDNK since apparently the image has broken)

There is one on BZP that I totally said I would incorporate somehow and I haven't and I will. -- Dorek Talk External Image 10:01, 23 February 2015 (CET)
Haha k that sounds good. If I have time I'll see if I can help out -- External Image
Sweet. -- Dorek Talk External Image 01:52, 26 February 2015 (CET)

Feature proposal

Hey guys, so with Bionicle 2015 underway and [hopefully] a new wave of Bionicle fans being brought into the theme, I thought now could be a good time to make BS01 a community with more interaction among its members, both socially and constructively towards the wiki. Since BS01 is officially a registered LEGO Users Group, it feels right to allow its members to communicate more effectively on social and constructive levels on this site. I feel like implementing a new feature, a chatroom, to this wiki could allow for that interaction and socialization among members. The chat extension, which was developed by BS01's affiliates at Brickimedia, has several functions that could allow new fans and senior members of the BS01 community to interact with each other, whether it be talking about Bionicle or about the wiki, which can be easier for new members than talk pages (or just quicker to use for anyone), and is more engaging than any "social" aspects of BS01 such as the community portal. As a LEGO User Group, it's important for members to be in touch with each other and be able to have that method of communication with each other, and a live chat is the easiest way to do that. The chat extension is very lightweight on server resources (so we don't have to worry about the server crashing or anything), is able to be moderated (such as kicking off of chat or blocking a user from accessing chat) by a chat moderator user group or by administrators, supports private messaging, and is easily accessible on the wiki by any member. If you have a Brickimedia account (or create one), you can test out the chat extension at It's just an idea to allow for some more member-to-member interaction in this community. Feel free to let me know what your thoughts on this wiki feature are, and if you have any questions feel free to ask. --Meiko (talk) 23:33, 23 February 2015 (CET)

Already said that I want it~ -- Dorek Talk External Image 00:04, 24 February 2015 (CET)
It's implemented. Special:Chat --Meiko (talk) 04:42, 6 November 2015 (CET)


Just so you guys know, the new background makes it impossible to read certain things (such as things in page descriptions).--Kopaka Master of Ice (talk) 13:04, 25 February 2015 (CET)

Yes, it's very pretty, but the color of links should probably be changed -- Tables of Contents are now almost completely illegible (!). Maybe stick with some shade of blue? --Angel Bob (talk) 16:35, 25 February 2015 (CET)
@Kopaka Master of Ice: Were you referring to the link colors as well? That's something we noticed last night. That'll get fixed. Anything else? -- Dorek Talk External Image 20:53, 25 February 2015 (CET)
Mainly table of contents and categories. There are some others, but I don't know what to call them.--Kopaka Master of Ice (talk) 21:34, 25 February 2015 (CET)

Right, that has to do with the link colors. That seems to be the big one =P. -- Dorek Talk External Image 22:18, 25 February 2015 (CET)

In my opinion the links should be blue. It is normal and looks good. :P--Kopaka Master of Ice (talk) 22:24, 25 February 2015 (CET)
Blue is the plan for standard things, like the table of contents and the editing boxes, so we're working on fixing that. -- Dorek Talk External Image 22:33, 25 February 2015 (CET)
Good, there's a lot of stuff I can't see. Don't Ever make the links white again --DL 00:58, 26 February 2015 (CET)
I do what I want! However I did not actually want this, so yeah yeah it'll be fixed. -- Dorek Talk External Image 01:15, 26 February 2015 (CET)

Glad to know it'll be changed, this is probably the only issue I have with an otherwise great skin (vector <3) »Zapnox«

edit diff highlights

i know this is a super old discussion, but the background we have currently makes it kinda hard to see the blue highlighting on the edit diffs of most pages. Intelligence4 (talk) 21:16, 21 May 2016 (CET)

Tabs on Character Templates

The tab switching on various templates (Toa, Rahi, etc.) seems to be broken for me. I tested with multiple skins and browsers, and it still doesn't work. Any ideas?
And now that I've noticed, the gen-switcher on the top left of various pages also seems to have disappeared... »Zapnox«

It appears to be a mass JS thing, since the twitter feed somehow disappeared too. I'm not really sure why? It was working up until it wasn't. Might be related to using vector (Tomana will be happy =P), so that's something we'll have to figure out. -- Dorek Talk External Image 19:18, 26 February 2015 (CET)
I'm wondering if this skin change (setting the default skin to a vector variant) required some extra backend changes, because I've been using the default vector skin since like forever, and all the tabs and gen-switches worked totally fine. Can't comment about the twitter feed since I barely visit the MP anyway, haha. »Zapnox«
It's probably related to the two unneeded closing braces at the end of Mediawiki:Common.js causing a syntax error. --maxim21 19:47, 26 February 2015 (CET)
Thanks =P. -- Dorek Talk External Image 20:26, 26 February 2015 (CET)
The twitter feed's still dead though :( »Zapnox«
Refresh your cache or GET OUT. -- Dorek Talk External Image 20:34, 26 February 2015 (CET)
...nevermind, I'm just dumb, Adblock and Ghostery were hiding it. Sometimes I just forget they're there. »Zapnox«
Yeah, adblock does that =P. Should be all good now~ -- Dorek Talk External Image 20:47, 26 February 2015 (CET)

Fishers' Categorical Greg Reference

According to her blog on BZP, the light at the end of the tunnel approacheth. We going to find a way to incorporate it into BS01/use it as reference for Greg F details? ζoxHistories External Image

Cite it like we do everything else? -- Dorek Talk External Image 03:23, 3 August 2015 (CEST)
we need to be sure to actually cite it though... So much content on here isn't cited. Intelligence4 (talk)

Past Featured Page

Hey guys, I've got a weirdly specific question for y'all - just because I've been trying to figure it out myself, and can't quite seem to do it. I remember, a few months ago, that there was a Featured page on here, and it was a really interesting little blurb, but I can't remember which character it was about. It was a character from the 2009 saga, and the blurb talked about how, although the character had been reduced to a few angry lines in "The Legend Reborn," he had been more or less the real bad guy of 2009. It also said that he was actually one of the more interesting villains from Bionicle because he wasn't fighting for power or anything like that, it was really just to save his people. Any ideas? Thanks! - Agenttv (Talk) 08:21 22 August, 2015 (CEST)

Yeah, that'd be Tuma! You can check out a page's previous revisions by clicking "history" towards the top... however, the code for the Main Page is actually on another page, so you can check out its history over there. The description you're thinking of can be found in this revision. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 08:25, 22 August 2015 (CEST)
Whenever I write the FA's I always try and approach things from a new perspective. I know the idea of Tuma being a nuanced character isn't exactly novel, but it was just interesting to see how the contrast of his attitudes based on his various media appearances changed. -- Dorek Talk External Image 08:39, 22 August 2015 (CEST)
Awesome!! Thank you guys so much - love this community!! - Agenttv (Talk) 17:17 22 August, 2015 (CEST)

Image Sizing

Why are images (ones being treated as external at least) misbehaving suddenly? I thought it was a Main page issue, but Door Wreck's sig is also messed up. ζoxHistories External Image

Probably to do with some bugfixes related to external linking. I'll change my sig until it gets fixed. -- Dorek Talk External Image 06:42, 8 October 2015 (CEST)

Issue should be fixed now, if you still see randomly sized images, re-save the page and they should be fixed. --Metax「Talk Page」 07:17, 9 October 2015 (CEST)

Seems fixed on this end, thanks =) ζoxHistories External Image

Skins Broken

The skins on this wiki seem to be broken to me, making it near impossible to do anything. Is this just on my end, or are others experiencing this as well? --Gresh113, Gla"Toa"rian of Air 15:25, 28 October 2015 (CET)

This was a known issue that I've just now fixed. --Meiko (talk) 17:40, 28 October 2015 (CET)
Yay! Thank you!! -Gresh113, Gla"Toa"rian of Air 18:25, 28 October 2015 (CET)

About the top of our pages

I was wondering: would it be reasonable to move the Gen 1/2 buttons we've made for dual-gen characters/items from hovering there at the top to just over the top of the template for that page? When we actually use the site-notice at the top of the page it moves off-position and no longer looks good. We also need to do something about the era-icons, parent-page tabs, and Featured icons at the top-right. I'd almost say that we could do the same thing and orient them around the template: era icons off to the side, like. It just bothers me that they so easily get messed up. ζoxHistories External Image

Memoirs of the Dead

Hi all. I posted this on BZPower, since that's where the contest was, but I was advised to post in this talk page too.

I've been away from BZP for a while now, so I was pleasantly surprised to hear that the results for the Memoirs of the Dead contest were well and truly out. Firstly, I'd like to say a big congratulations to all the winners; I've only read a couple of the winning stories so far but I'm impressed, fitting additions to the canon and definitely worthy of their placings.

However, I was a bit confused when I went to BS01 and couldn't find any of the information from these short stories - or the short stories themselves - anywhere on the site, which is a tad confusing, as I was under the impression that the winning entries were to become canon, and BS01 is basically the de facto repository for BIONICLE canon.

So my question is essentially, why are the stories and their canon not canon, as promised?

I don't want to seem rude about this but it strikes me as highly unfair. Everyone - not just the winners - put a lot of hard work into their entries for this contest. It was, after all, the last chance to be a part of Generation 1, a storyline so special to many people, special enough that a community as larger as BZPower even formed in the first place. People were entering with the understanding that what they would do would be a part of that storyline, and though it may seem trivial, having your work on BS01 is like quantifiable evidence that, even in a small way, you're a part of it.

Before anyone brings up contact with Greg Farshety as having an effect on the canonicity of entries, this is from the contest's actual thread, where he basically allows the contest to act independently of further involvement from him, so needing to run the entries by Greg (who is understandably a very busy man and understandably is unlikely to have time to read and approve the winners) is not an issue. Here is the quote:

bonesiii: Hey, wanted to run [an] S&T contest [idea] by you, for permission for the winning entries to be considered official....Memoirs of the Dead -- along the lines of your serial for Makuta Mutran; members would write SSes telling the past story of any character, as long as that character is currently dead in official story. Any MU [Matoran Universe] character anyways.Of course, [this] will have judges making sure entries fit with official story. What do you think? GregF: Okay by me

If the prize was intended to include being added to BS01, then there's no question that they should be on BS01. That was the prize, so whether Generation 1 is still active or not is irrelevant, the prize must be delivered unless that's physically impossible (which it isn't, it would take one person an afternoon at most to fix up the BS01 pages with this information).

If the prize was never intended to include being added to BS01, then honestly the wording of the contest should have been clearer on that. As it is, it's a little misleading. Again, I'm sorry if any of this sounds rude, I'm doing my best not to come across in that manner. I just feel a little frustrated for the winners, whose hard work and dedication seems to have been either ignored or forgotten.

And let this not be a rant at BS01, because it's not intended as that either. Five years after the Battle of Bara Magna and I still have it bookmarked in my web browser. I've always been amazed by how well-constructed a site it is, from the level of detail in pages' contents to the site's design aesthetics, and there's no doubt in my mind at all as to why it is the de facto source for BIONICLE canon. If anything, the fact that getting your work into a page on a fan-made wiki can be a prize is a credit to the site itself.

I'm hoping that there has just been an error in communication somewhere, one that can be resolved easily enough. If it's an issue of peoplepower (and I understand how time-consuming bringing an entire wiki up to standard can be), I'm more than happy to sit down for a day in the Easter holidays and add the information myself. I just want - and I think a lot of people will agree with me - the winners of the contest to get the recognition that they were led to believe they had earned.

Best wishes to you all (as I wouldn't be making a post like this if this wasn't a community I cared deeply about, no matter how inactive on it I may be),

-Jam Pot

New Featured Quote/Page?

How often do we change those? It looks like it's been a couple months at least since this last set has been up, since the last time the main page was changed was back in February. Intelligence4 (talk) 06:12, 12 April 2016 (CET)

main link tabs

THE main Navigation tabs don't work like they should. Most of the Gen2 tabs link back to the Gen 1 pages (i.e. Creatures, Locations, etc.) This is inconvinient. ToaJuaraevo01 (talk) 12:49, 18 May 2016 (CET)

Many of those pages don't exist yet, either. I do plan to update it to go to Gen 1 and Gen 2 respectively, but again they don't even exist yet. --External Image Owner (talk|contribs)


I see the aesthetic changes to the main page on the page itself, but I don't see any of it in the edit history. Where is/are the change logs?Intelligence4 (talk) 19:03, 19 May 2016 (CET)

Template:MPHome. -- Dorek Talk External Image 19:34, 19 May 2016 (CET)
aha, thanks. it looks like only admins can edit that page? Intelligence4 (talk) 21:09, 21 May 2016 (CET)


Currently BS01 articles capitalize everything, but that's not how actual Bionicle media does it. Actually it turns out (in the later media, at least, since that's what I've looked through), the words that are capitalized or not capitalized are pretty consistent. For example, "kraata" and "kolhii" are always lowercase. I think it'd be a good project to change page names and articles so reflect this capitalization. If we want to do this, I've found that Makuta's Guide to the Universe and Mata Nui's Guide to Bara Magna are pretty good at distinguishing between proper and improper nouns. Based on those two books, I've started compiling a list of improper nouns at User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow/Sandbox2. I'm confident I've missed some that are in there, and I'm guessing the chapter books also have more improper nouns in them too. What are people's thoughts on this project? -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:02, 8 June 2016 (CET)

It's come up a few times before. To me, it's always simpler to have everything capitalized if for no other reason that it highlights that this is an encyclopedia, not an in-universe piece of fiction. I'd capitalize The Shadowed One consistently if I could. -- Dorek Talk External Image 07:34, 9 June 2016 (CET)
Hmm. Maybe it wouldn't require changing page titles or what have you, but do you think we could at least make a note of the proper capitalization in some way? Because I do think there's a benefit to having that information on the site in some form. BS01 is an encyclopedia, but when people look stuff up here they might use the information they find in another context, like a story, where the other capitalization would be more fitting. And maybe we could change the podcast transcriptions as well to reflect the capitalization in other official media. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 21:12, 9 June 2016 (CET)
The Midak Skyblaster is uppercase. See there: [1] -- Surel-Nuva (Talk) 12:19, 9 June 2016 (CET)
Thanks, I've made a note of it. I'll check in the books to see if Skyblaster is capitalized there too, but I'm guessing it is. Also I moved the list to the sandbox's talkpage now so everyone can edit it. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 21:12, 9 June 2016 (CET)

I don't mind a note (we could create some sort of special mention for it being a proper noun), and yeah, stuff like podcasts could probably be changed. I just think a page full of lowercase "kraata" is really unhelpful when you're trying to learn about the subject itself, for instance. -- Dorek Talk External Image 21:25, 9 June 2016 (CET)

Seems reasonable. Does anyone have ideas on how to integrate such mentions into the page? -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 19:07, 10 June 2016 (CET)
In the Trivia sections? -- Surel-Nuva (Talk) 20:22, 10 June 2016 (CET)
Something like that is a possibility, but I think ideally it'd be a bit more prominent on the page. Actually here's an idea, we could do it like Chronist-Wiki does for articles where the title is a German translation of some piece of English media, like on Das Imperium Der Skrall. Then for example, the Kraata page could start with, "Kraata (kraata) are slug-like creatures of darkness created from the essence of a Makuta." Or something to that effect. Or we could stick with lowercase.... :P-- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:41, 14 June 2016 (CET)

We wouldn't change any page titles, since all titles are capitalized anyway. Other than that, I think we should just stick to good old classic grammar: when typing a word, if it's a name or title, then it's capitalized, otherwise, it's not. I don't think we need to make any special note on if the noun is proper. If it is, then it is capitalized, if it's not, then it's not. I think people using the wiki for fanfic or whatever are smart enough to figure that out without any special notation anywhere. Intelligence4 (talk) 02:32, 16 June 2016 (CET)

Unused G2 panels

Since Bionicle is discontinued(again), what will happen to these unused G2 panels? Do you plan to create pages for them or abandon them?

--External Image 16:45, 1 August 2016 (CET)

Still plan on creating pages for them, although given what we know, there might be some reconfiguring. -- Dorek Talk External Image 21:53, 4 August 2016 (CET)
Also we have a "Tools" panel without a page, because all the tools are listed on the "Objects" page. -- Surel-Nuva (Talk) 22:05, 17 October 2016 (CET)

Gen 1 and 2 tab glitch

There seems to be a glitch right now where the Gen 1 and 2 tabs at the top left of pages covers the article's title. As in if you go to Tahu (Generation 1) or Tahu (Generation 2) the tabs used to switch between the two is covering the title of the article. --Luka1184 (talk) 21:13, 4 August 2016 (CET)

It happens every time we have a site notice (the open letter, in this case), unfortunately. It'll just have to live for a bit until the notice gets taken down. -- Dorek Talk External Image 21:45, 4 August 2016 (CET)
Couldn't it theoretically get fixed with some code so that it doesn't happen when notices appear? --Luka1184 (talk) 03:23, 5 August 2016 (CET)
If there is a solution (I'm not the coder!) I was under the impression that it was too complicated to really be effective, and that it's a lot easier just to suck it up with a small glitch. I'm not particularly fussed. -- Dorek Talk External Image 09:03, 5 August 2016 (CET)
In theory it could if we transition to using page status indicators for all the icons, etc. on the top of the page. (In fact that's better than the current solution anyway because page status indicators are a solution that's built-in to MediaWiki.) The problem is that solution only works easily if all the buttons are on one line and on the right of the page. The problem is, on pages like Tahu (Generation 1), not only are there two lines of icons, the gen tabs are on the left of the page. It'll require a fair bit of messing around to figure out how to make our more complicated setup work with page status indicators. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 18:38, 5 August 2016 (CET)

The tab glitch happens for me even if there isn't a site notice. FYI i'm using Chrome on windows 10 to view the site. Intelligence4 (talk) 07:00, 8 August 2016 (CET)

Links on

Hey everyone! What links would you like to see on the splash page ( The plan so far is:

  • User/talk page
  • Social media links
  • Main Page
  • Recent Changes
  • Random Page
  • Articles for Creation
  • Articles for Deletion
  • Language links

Anything else? Anything you think should be removed? -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 03:50, 6 September 2016 (CET)

(New splash page -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 02:43, 7 September 2016 (CET))

By splash page, do you mean the page first seen when navigating to If so, i think that should just be the Main Page, which is a pretty good resource as is. I know that's the first thing i always go to when i come to the site. currently, the splash page only has a search tool, which i don't think serves a very good purpose of informing visitors what we have to offer. i always immediately click on the logo to get to the main page, then i read some stuff there, and then log in, and work through my watchlist. some of the other proposed links could make the splash page a little more useful, but i still feel that the idea of having a splash page is a bit redundant.
one more thing about the site: the background image we currently have makes reading edit diffs pretty difficult. the color scheme of the mask of creation and the blue background that go with it are really close to the highlight colors in the edit diffs. what image did we used to have before gen2 was announced?
tl;dr i think we should make the main page what shows up when you type in your browser, and i think we need to change the background image. good discussion! Intelligence4 (talk) 18:56, 6 September 2016 (CET)
Yep that's it. I think the splash page here to stay at least for now, but it's getting an overhaul. Here's the new design currently. (The mask will reflect whether you're logged in/have new messages once the page goes live.) Part of the problem with the current main page is it's not updated very much, so honestly it doesn't do a good job of showing what we have to offer anyway. The new splash page requires less maintenance since it pulls random backgrounds from a list on the wiki. (Currently User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow/Sandbox2.) The content in the boxes at the bottom is pulled from the same wiki page so it can easily be updated to showcase new reviews or what have you. Anyway, redundancy aside, what are your thoughts?
Here's the old background image. Still pretty blue unfortunately. I recommend asking Swert if you want the background to be changed since he (presumably) has the PSD files.
(Also I'll respond to your Faxon message later on, I think there was a discussion on its limits on BZPower a while ago, or maybe it was a Greg quote. Something though.) -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 02:43, 7 September 2016 (CET)
There's nothing worse than BIONICLE click-bait XD.
I am with Intelligence4 regarding the current Splash page--I usually click the logo and head straight for the main page as well. But the new page looks like it has most of the things I use anyway (plus Vezon's head is always a plus). I wouldn't mind seeing a link to the Articles of Creation/Deletion, but that's just me. --777stairs (talk) 02:54, 7 September 2016 (CET)
Cool cool. I replaced the Timeline and Saga Guides links with AfC/AfD links. Any other thoughts? -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 04:58, 7 September 2016 (CET)

(Bump) -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 06:16, 12 September 2016 (CET)

Just saw the newest version of the splash page, and i really dig the changing backgrounds thing. maybe we could use that concept for the new background image on the site as a whole - that would be pretty neat. gotta agree with 777, bionicle clickbait is the worst XD. in all seriousness though, i think that section should be removed (i know it's just a placeholder thingie for now, but still... and if you click on it, it links you to making a new page, which we don't want random people doing haha). I think the biggest issue with the splash page is the redundancy, everything else is pretty much fine, especially with the added functionality of logging in and having new messages displayed where that mask is (although i wouldn't have known what that mask does without you telling us - so i think it should be more obvious). I wouldn't be totally opposed to just moving all the features currently on the main page to the splash page and just having the splash page take the place of the main page entirely, as long as everything is there. One thing I miss about the old main page was the featured article, or featured mask, or featured whatever. (when they were actually updated lol.) It was a nice little random bit of nostalgia, so if we had a thingie on the splash page for that that would be cool. Just curious, what started the whole splash page thing anyway? Intelligence4 (talk) 15:49, 12 September 2016 (CET)

Well the content in that box is a placeholder in that it's just there during development, not that it'll show up until the other real content is finished loading. That box will probably be dedicated to year 3 stuff in reality. It could also potentially be a featured article/image, but that's up to Dorek. The box contents are configurable on the wiki so nothing will have to be set in stone.
Thanks for the feedback on the mask. Once the splash page is up and running the mask will turn gold when you're logged in, I'm wondering if that will make it clearer? Maybe we can deploy it as-is and see what others think, then if it's clearly an issue we can send it back to the drawing board.
The point of the splash page is to make the site more accessible to readers who want to search stuff up. My understanding is that the analytics show that's what people do the most on the wiki, so we may as well make it front-and-center. A splash page is also lower maintenance than a full-on main page. That's precisely because it's stripped down, so moving everything over from the main page goes against the purpose. Instead the splash page and main page will complement each other, like on Wikipedia. Swert and Dorek may have more to say on that.
Changing backgrounds on the actual wiki probably isn't feasible I'm afraid. It would be cool though! What the splash page does is load the contents of User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow/Sandbox2, then it loads one of the images listed there. So loading a random background requires loading two extra resources from on every page load. I couldn't say for sure but I imagine the server would not be a fan of two extra pageloads whenever someone loads a page on the wiki. :/
Anyone else want to chime in? -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 08:59, 17 September 2016 (CET)
I had completely forgotten that wikipedia even has a main page lol, but what you're saying makes sense. I like the idea of the mask turning color when you're logged in - we could have it be silver when you're logged out, and turn a color when you're logged in, kinda like when a toa puts on a mask! haha, that's a pretty good idea. idk how, but would it be possible for the user to pick that color?
how will the notifications show? will it just be a little flag icon on the mask?
about those images in your sandbox, they all seem to have a different aspect ratio. i've haven't seen an instance of this yet, but i wonder if that'll cause issues when displaying the image as the page background. btw, I really like that image of Gali swimming with the bohrok, it's got a nice touch to it. There might have been something else i was going to say here, but I can't remember it lol. Intelligence4 (talk) 18:47, 19 September 2016 (CET)
The aspect ratio isn't an issue, I'm assuming Morris set the background to "cover" as compared to "contain," which would mean the image fills the screen from left to right, regardless of the top-bottom. If it were set to "contain" it would show visible bars on the sides. What we'd need to do is select images that are high enough resolution to prevent eye gouging insanity when viewed on a HD+ screen :) --External Image Owner (talk|contribs)
Yep, it's set to cover. As for the mask, it turns gold when you're logged in and infected if you're banned. The color isn't customizable. When there are new messages there is a red alert icon thing in the top right corner of the avatar, and to make it even more noticeable the mask shakes a few times on page load. It also displays the username next to the mask now, so hopefully its function is clearer. Or rather, the code to make it do all those things is written, but it won't work until the site is actually live. The demo still just has the gray mask, but now it says "log in" next to it. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 00:01, 20 September 2016 (CET)

Swert, do you have the ability to change the site background like mtmnc mentioned above after i asked about it (i was talking about edit diffs being hard to read due to color matching with the background)? Intelligence4 (talk) 18:19, 20 September 2016 (CET)

I've noticed lots of new images showing up on the splash page recently - looks good! is there a list we can view that shows all of the images it's pulling from? Intelligence4 (talk) 18:06, 27 February 2017 (CET)

Glad you like it! We actually haven't added new images to the list for a while--I guess you've just been lucky and gotten some different ones recently. The list is at BIONICLEsector01:Splash. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 05:22, 4 March 2017 (CET)
Thanks for the link! :) Intelligence4 (talk) 18:31, 6 March 2017 (CET)

A new approach to gen disambigs (and some future projects)

Recently the staff has been reconsidering how to re-implement gen tabs. The current implementation is pretty dirty, and it does not work across skins or when there is a sitenotice. Swert put a poll up on Facebook and Discord about what to do with the gen tabs, and we got a few responses. One point that came up is that visitors can find it annoying to navigate to a disambig every time they search for a character that appears in both gens. There was a suggestion to change the current setup so that searching for, say, "Tahu" would take users to the gen 1 page, and then users could easily access the gen 2 page with the gen tabs. So disambiguation pages like Tahu will now be redirects to their appropriate gen 1 pages.

To give you an idea of a few other things in the works:

  • As was our original intent, in addition to this article name change, we plan to rework the gen tab setup from a code and appearance point of view. We may even replace the gen tabs with Template:Youmay.
  • A new era system that mentions the page's current generation and relegates the era icons to a dropdown (see my sandbox)
  • Spanish interwiki links (I'd recommend waiting to add these until the new era template is ready so we can do everything in fewer edits)

If you have any thoughts or concerns about this change or the other changes mentioned, please voice them here. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 08:18, 6 May 2017 (CET)

definitely support the new era system - before, it was covered by other content and we couldn't mouse over it. it's not perfect since you still have to click on a dropdown menu to get see it, but it's a huge improvement over what we have now. also mentioned my support for the new gen tabs on your talk page before, i think. Intelligence4 (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2017 (CET)
I like the Vahi/MoC icons at top, with the wider tabs a bit lower; I think I'd rather use those than Youmay. It's also nice that the Era icons won't get covered up by the parent page icons anymore. A small note - in your sandbox, you have to click on the actual arrow (the darker blue section) on the Vahi/MoC Gen icons to get the Era icon dropdown. Currently, clicking on the bigger, lighter blue section of the Gen tab takes you to the tab image's file page; if there's a way to make the whole button open the dropdown menu, that could be nice. Volitak Boxor (talk) 02:52, 8 May 2017 (CET)

Greg on TTV

Just so you all know, Greg's started answering questions on TTV. Keep an eye out. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 05:22, 27 May 2017 (CET)

thanks for the heads up, i wouldn't have see that. a) how'd you find out about it? b) how was that worked out with lego's legal team? was there any talk of how this arrangement was set up? that would be interesting to know, just for knowledge's sake. c) on citations: we've seen, with every single avenue of discussion with greg so far, get shut down, and later we've had to archive stuff for our references. should we preemptively make a copy of everything he says on there so we can have an independent reference system we know won't get discontinued? Intelligence4 (talk) 05:28, 30 May 2017 (CET)
Probably. —Planetperson 05:46, 30 May 2017 (CET)
Exciting stuff! —Planetperson 05:46, 30 May 2017 (CET)
a) I think I saw a post about it on the bioniclelego subreddit.
b) I'm not sure if they've announced how they managed to get this deal through. They must have gotten Lego to acknowledge that they have an age verification system to ensure members are at least 13. IIRC TTV brought up the idea to Greg while he was still answering questions on the LMBs.
c) Definitely, I'd recommend making an copy whenever you make a citation, then provide the original and archived URLs. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 05:56, 30 May 2017 (CET)
Shouldn't the Maintenance tab on the main pahe be updated since Greg no longer is answering questions on the LMB which is linked, and instead maybe link the TTV MBs forum? "The LEGO Message Boards Chat with GregF is always coming up with some new tidbit of information, and good fact-checkers for this are always welcome!" ~ WOLKsite (talk) 10:59, 13 July 2017 (CET)

yes, it should. i don't think normal users have the ability to edit that page though Intelligence4 (talk) 21:43, 15 July 2017 (CET)

Well, it's been updated to say the TTV Message Boards rather than LMB already, so no issue no more. ~ WOLKsite 01:25, 16 July 2017 (CET)
ha, that's what i get for not checking before commenting :) Intelligence4 (talk) 02:40, 16 July 2017 (CET)

Tools Page

So, on the front page with the 6x5 grid of tabs with Characters, Locations, etc. there is a "Tools" tab. Now, I noticed, this page doesn't exist, nor would it serve any purpose since tools are listed on the Objects page, so. What do? ~ Wolk (talk) 21:13, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Actually; it's supposed to be a link to Gallery:Tools. So would someone with perms fix it? hehe.... ~ Wolk (talk) 21:16, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


I won't even ask... --Vartemp Talk 14:02, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

The day at its finest. Happy April 1st holiday(s) of your choosing. --External Image Owner (talk|contribs)

some questions

For lack of better place i'm putting this here. i have a seiries of questions.

1: what happend to the BS01 Youtube channel?

2: what happend to the podcast recordings? i was told that they would be uploaded but it never happend. (yes Swert and Spirit, it's that Srlojohn)

3: on a similar note, what happend to making a page of all the Makutafest videos?

Thanks, --Srlojohn (talk) 17:44, 12 August 2018 (UTC)


Finally!! took ya long enough! --"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" ~Prof. Srlojohn 19:18, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

This skin and logo are a beauty. Great to know this place is still going good! --Vartemp Talk 20:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Location, Characters etc. Gen1/Gen2 tabs

In the wikinav found at the front page, both of the G1 and G2 Character tabs link to the Characters disambigous page (does that page actually need to exist?). G2 powers link to the G1 Powers oage, as opposed to Elements (Generation_2), similair case with Creatures rather than Okoto#Wildlife and Locations rather than Okoto. These issues only applies to the Main Page, and not to the actual wikinav template itself. ~ Wolk (talk) 20:22, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Those issues should be fixed now. Thanks for pointing them out! -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 04:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

lego ideas project (moved from AFC)

I know this isn't really the place to put this, but I'm not sure where else. If a Bionicle Ideas project were to be made, would it be on the site, and in what capacity? (The preceding unsigned comment was made by Srlojohn)

It depends on what the project is. We would definitely make a set article for it and mention it on the the Sets page. We would also mention it in the "Set Information" sections of relevant articles. For example if Sokoda's set makes it through, we'll mention it in the Matoro, GSR, and Bara Magna articles, among others. If a set described new canon events, then we would also update the "History" sections of relevant articles. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 18:20, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

TTV Canonization Attempts

It seems that TTV is gauging interest for a new slew of canonization building contests. I am curious whether BS01 would accept the results of such contests, or to what standards they would need to be held before making it onto this site. --Angel Bob (talk) 17:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

At the end of the day, I'd say most likely. I've already given my thoughts and I'm vehemently against it, but if it were to happen, we would probably honor it.
One of the things that does concern me is the overall numbers of the poll; if it maintains its current trends, peaks at, say, 1000 voters, with a roughly 2/3rds split; is that enough of a sample representation? If those numbers all point to yes, but then an actual contest receives drastically less votes, can we say the original poll wasn't flawed somehow? This is all speaking quantitatively, of course, when there's some pointed qualitative arguments to consider as well. So it's a dynamic situation that we're keeping an eye on.
(still a haaaaaaard no to the idea from me though!) -- Dorek Talk External Image 00:46, 7 March 2020 (UTC)