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BIONICLE Facebook Page

Page will be made.

This wiki should probably have some way of referencing the happenings of the Bionicle Facebook page, which often releases images and videos that are either exclusive or are not released on another source until later and hosts events such as contests. Bionicle websites have articles so it should seem logical that the facebook page should as well. Even if a page is not made, there should be some way of referencing events that unfold on the facebook page as well as images, videos, and other content. This could mean a nav template or a category of some form. Post your thoughts.

Someone wanna get cracking on a sandbox for this? --Angel Bob (talk) 19:47, 31 October 2016 (CET)
Would someone make a sandbox? -- SurelNuva (Talk) 13:06, 14 February 2017 (CET)


Merchandise

Page will be made.

Regardless of exactly what we call it, I feel as though we need a single page for all the obscure merchandising items Bionicle had during it's run, such as the Toa Mahri Dart Shooter or the Sponge Morbuzakh or even the Soft Foam Takadox Mask and Twin Knives, which clearly aren't important enough to deserve pages of their own but could probably be compiled onto a single page. The only issue I can see with this is that some of these are very difficult to find reliable citations for that extend beyond photographs (Otherwise surely there would be some mention of the wearable glow-in-the-dark Piraka teeth on the wiki) --Snaptor (talk) 01:24, 25 September 2017 (CET)

Comments on Merchandise

I think this will be a good page to have - but i think we have to be very careful in drawing the line between regular sets and stuff and all the ancillary merchandise that was available. Intelligence4 (talk) 00:48, 28 September 2017 (CET)

I found a TTV topic that has a huge list of this sort of thing. It obviously wouldn't qualify as an actual source, but it could certainly help as a sort of "checklist" to see exactly what sort of things we're looking for. Are we allowed to link to TTV here? (Also, on a more amusing note, I'm not sure I've seen something gather eight votes this quickly in ages, I was expecting this to be controversial. =P) Snaptor (talk) 11:10, 28 September 2017 (CET)

I just realized this only technically counts as seven votes, oops. Snaptor (talk) 23:49, 28 September 2017 (CET)
MY VOTE COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING -- Dorek Talk External Image 03:39, 29 September 2017 (CET)


Glatorian Action Figure Game

Page will be made.

I was looking this up the other day to remind myself of the rules. For some reason though, there's only a note in the set information for glatorian of all places. It seems strange for it to not have it's own page, or at least it's separate section or sub section on the glatorian page. --"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" ~Prof. Srlojohn 20:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Comments on Glatorian Action Figure Game

so, how many votes are needed to get approval? --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 19:12, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Per the rules on BIONICLEsector01:Articles for Creation you need three more votes, unless someone votes no, in which case you need five more. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Were the rules only ever listed in the back of manuals, or was there a "better" version listed anywhere? --MightBeAlon (talk) 14:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

maybe on the website, if not that's it then. Though there were slightly different rules for; single, double, +Agori, and Vehicle. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 18:37, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Makes sense. It might be worth someone scoping out the possible variations between them and compiling the differences, if any, between the potentially different rules on this hypothetical Agori Game page. --MightBeAlon (talk) 18:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
agori game? it was just an add on to the normal --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 18:37, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Whoops, I meant to call it the Glatorian Game but had a brainfart --MightBeAlon (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
The website used to have "interactive" tutorials for each of the four variants (it was like a glorified slideshow, but it explained things pretty well.) I don't know if anybody (BioMediaProject/Wayback Machine) has these preserved? --Snaptor(talk) 23:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Gallery:sets

Page will be made.

I noticed that we while we do have a gallery for prototypes sets, we do not have a gallery for actual set images. ~ Wolk (talk) 22:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Comments on proposal to create gallery:sets

I'm not opposed, I just don't see anyone willing to do the legwork =P. If someone were to actually create one, I certainly wouldn't complain. -- Dorek Talk External Image 07:23, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

I can give it a shot. I'll need some help on formatting though, so I know what templates an whatnot. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 15:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Behind the Scenes sections

This is a suggestion I've seen brought up by a couple people but I haven't seen them bring it up on the Wiki, so figured I'd see it's popularity.

The suggestion is to add behind the scenes sections/subheadings to most pages, detailing real-life aspects, such as origiks and inspirations for the charactes (like we have for Annona) or locations (like Mata Nui) or how they were developed or altered from original plans, possibly detailing contridictions, retcons and/or uncertaonties, etc. There might be other things as well that could fit into the category. In most cases, I'm not sure there is much know to warrant these, so I'd perhaps keep them to pages where there is something to say. ~ Wolk (talk) 06:43, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Comments on Behind the Scenes sections

It's an interesting idea. I like to think Trivia encompasses a fair amount (and anything more detailed probably belongs on a more real-world oriented media page) but we could possibly redevelop what we consider "Trivia" as well. Could you maybe do a mock-up to show what it would look like? -- Dorek Talk External Image 06:15, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

While I'd also like to see a mock-up of what it would look like, I feel like a lot of the sort of information we'd be looking at would be far too niche to belong on any real-world oriented media pages that I'm aware of. BS01 already covers some things like this (such as "Real People" like Greg Farshtey) so I don't think it's outside the scope of the wiki. And Trivia should remain stuff that really is trivial and doesn't belong elsewhere. --ToaOfSnow(talk) 11:30, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Adding Contributors to more infoboxes

Changes will be made.


So, for movies we have a lot of things in the infoboxes - writers, starring VAs, distributers, etc. Similarily, for books we have writer and publisher, and for comics the illustrator. However, this department is lacking for Games (of all four types). We might not have all the information for every game, but we should add what we do have, and this of course should belong in the info-box.

Not expecting much pushback on this, but more-so looking for thoughts on what specifically to add/how to add it.

My basic thinking right now is:

- Developing Studio (Sapphire, TT, Upperdeck, Templar, etc.)

- Publishers/Distributers?

- Writers (Greg, in the case of The Legend Continues)

- Composers

~ Wolk (talk) 20:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments on adding contributors to game Infoboxes

No need to run this through the AfC process. Go for it! -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 03:49, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Went ahead and knocked out adding some of that material to the 2001-2003 video/online games, but Idk when I'll have time to do the others, so I'd appreciate it if someone else handled the games I haven't knocked out and the card/board games (especially since I'm far less familiar with those). Additionally, I've added an "Editor" option to the Book template, so it would be worthwhile adding Fiona Simpson to the G1 Scholastic novels and Jim Salicrup(?) to the Papercutz graphic novels.
Also, I'm not entirely sure how, but I think the amount of properties now in the Video game template has prevented some of the later ones from displaying. Not sure why that's not working, but if someone knows how to fix that, it would be awesome. --Gonel (talk) 16:10, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Fixed! Template:Infobox was only set up to handle 10 property/value pairs before, but that limit's been upped to 15. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 17:59, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Split Fenrakk into Fenrakk Spawn and Fenrakk

Currently Fenrakk is an article about the Fenrakk spawn species, with a subsection on the mutated specimen called Fenrakk. I think the specimen is significant enough that Fenrakk should just discuss that particular spider, and the Fenrakk spawn species should have a separate page--just like how Pewku and Ussal are separate pages. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 19:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

UPDATE: Per the discussion below, I've rethought the proposal. First, let's vote on whether or not to give Fenrakk the individual a separate article from the Fenrakk spawn species. If that vote passes, then we can determine what to call that article: Fenrakk, Kardas, or Kardas Dragon. (If we pick the latter two options, we'll incorporate Fenrakk's info into the existing Kardas Dragon article.) I've moved around the existing votes to reflect the new proposal. Of course still feel free to change your vote if I've moved it. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Split Fenrakk into Fenrakk Spawn and Kardas

  1. BIONICLE Encyclopedia's entry is called Kardas. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 18:36, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  2. Makes sense, we could make Kardas Dragon into a redirect and Fenrakk into a disambiguation page. ~ Wolk (talk) 19:08, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  3. Same as Wolk.— SurelNuva (Talk) 09:47, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
  4. --maxim21 06:44, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  5. ~~Chalk33

Split Fenrakk into Fenrakk Spawn and Kardas Dragon

Leave it as-is

  1. -- Toa Jala Converse 05:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Comments on proposal to split Fenrakk into Fenrakk Spawn and Fenrakk/Kardas/Kardas Dragon

I do get the Ussal page comparison, but I gotta say I'm not really feeling this. It's a confusing enough situation as it is; they were introduced to the audience as "Fenrakk" and then "Fenrakk Spawn" but the Fenrakk Spawn are basically the original, even though that's not what the name implies at all? I think it's fine as is. -- Dorek Talk External Image 17:24, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah Fenrakk spawn is a misnomer. I suspect it's an out-of-universe nickname, but there's no confirmation for that afaik. Regardless, if we don't split the page up, we should at least move it to "Fenrakk Spawn" since that's the actual subject of the article. The current setup is analogous to calling the Ash Bear article "Graalok." -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
My understanding (admittedly this is an uncertain topic) is that the "Fenrakk Spawn Spiders" are distinct from ordinary "Fenrakk" which are distinct again from Vezon's specific Fenrakk (which I think we should refer to as Kardas, it the same sense that we say Takanuva and not Takua). --Snaptor(talk) 10:47, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Actually the BEU says that the Fenrakk Spawn are the main species, and the Ignika enlarged one Fenrakk Spawn into the Fenrakk/Vezon's Fenrakk, which eventually became Kardas. The book definitely says that Fenrakk is one spider, and the Fenrakk Spawn are the natural and only real species.--Surel (Talk) 00:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

New Conflict Pages

While I was consolidating our events pages, I realized that we don't have a page for either the Battle with the Kanohi Dragon or the final battle in the Toa-Dark Hunter War. This seems strange given how BS01 has pages for conflicts even so minor as the Battle at the Bone Hunter Camp, yet for something so significant as these two battles, there are no pages. For a direct comparison, we have a page for the Order of Mata Nui-Brotherhood of Makuta War as well as for the Siege of Metru Nui. Yet despite having a page for the T-DH War, these two major battles have nothing.

Reviewing the events list, the Civil Wars on Zakaz and Ancient's homeland also jump out as arguably significant enough events (especially in terms of the sorts of pages we already have) to warrant their own pages. There are plenty of others that, by the standing precedents, could logically warrant some action (or perhaps we could move to delete some of the minor battles...) but I'll just post these four for now. You can see the full list of event pages here. --Gonel (talk) 20:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Defeat of the Dark Hunters

See above --Gonel (talk) 20:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Make Defeat of the Dark Hunters

  1. --Gonel (talk) 20:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
  2. Not a fan of the name, but this could use a page. --maxim21 06:44, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
  3. I think it's a good idea--certainly it was a highly significant event. --User:ToaOfGallifrey
  4. ~~Chalk33

Don't Make Defeat of the Dark Hunters

  1. This wasn't really an event distinct from the Toa-DH war - it wasn't even a battle, it was just a series of surprise reinforcements and a surrender. It's not insignificant by any means, but I don't feel like it's distinct enough from the war itself to belong anywhere other than that article. --ToaOfSnow(talk) 11:15, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
  2. I'm with Morris and Snow. -- Toa Jala Converse 05:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
  3. I agree that this is more-so a part of the Toa-DH war, as well. ~ Wolk (talk) 00:25, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments on Defeat of the Dark Hunters

I think a page for this could work, but also we could just expand the "Nidhiki's Betrayal" section on the Toa-DH War page. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 05:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

This is a compelling suggestion. I could go either way on this one. --Angel Bob (talk) 04:30, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I can certainly change the name (though the current one is in the style of most BS01 event pages), but overall, I think this one is one I'd love to make a page, especially with all the back-and-forth going on leading up to this final battle and since two stories cover the various complexities of the events. There's also some fun aftermath worth covering, such as the fact that Nidhiki and the other DHs would later camp out in the very canyon where the Dark Hunters were defeated. --Gonel (talk) 19:50, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

I think one point worth making about this nomination is that if you look at Category|Events (tried linking it, but it won't let me for some reason), BS01 has accumulated a listing of almost a hundred various events. Many of these are battles or wars, but just as many are more mundane listings such as Energy Storms or Study of Energized Protodermis or My LEGO Network BIONICLE Campaign, none of which were events especially notable in themselves and which were generally subsections of larger arcs. I actually expected this particular nomination to pass the fastest of these four considering it and the events surrounding it portrayed directly in two different stories, described in several more, and altered the course of history. If pages such as these three warrant pages, I think this event at least could afford one. --Gonel (talk) 03:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Chronicles of Takua

The Chronicles of Takua are an in-universe compendium that is frequently referenced in BIONICLE's first half. Several narratives throughout the media include essays that are cited as having been directly pulled from it. These include;

  • The essay "Beware the Infected Kanohi" in the BIONICLE Collector's Sticker Book
  • The essay "The Origin of the Bohrok-Kal" in Comic 10: Powerless!
  • The narrative "Origin of the Rahaga" in the Appendix of Web of Shadows
  • The Wall of History articles, although not expressly stated as having been pulled from the "Chronicles of Takua" are still examples of his work

Ideally it would be fun to include these essays on the page, but if that's not possible it would at least be worthwhile to at least denote the collection.

For Chronicles of Takua

  1. --Gonel (talk) 03:20, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  2. --Surel (Talk) 13:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  3. -- Toa Jala Converse 05:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
  4. --maxim21 16:47, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  5. -- FirespitterVakama 09:17 AM, 5 May 2021 (EST)

Against Chronicles of Takua

Comments on Chronicles of Takua

Hmm, I do like that they all have the same sort of narrative link, but given how far apart they all are I'm not sure if a single page would be well served. Given that we're mostly relying on WoH (the site) for the novels, and we have copies of the comics, maybe just an individual article/section for the Sticker book excerpt? -- Dorek Talk External Image 18:38, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Walt Disney Pictures TokenZone/Disney TokenZone

Bionicle: Mask of Light, the first film for Bionicle, was featured in a crossover virtual trading card game known as Disney TokenZone, a collaboration between Walt Disney Pictures and TokenZone. However, the section for Mask of Light was not paired up with any other movie that was part of the service, as each movie offered their own separate set of trading cards and mini games to go with them, so essentially, B:MoL has it’s own separate website for it when it was part of service, and didn’t include references or appearances of other characters from Disney outside of Bionicle, so I think it should be fine given how each movie had it’s own separate distinct section(s).

However, the game is lost, and there’s hardly any information at all about it online. Maskoflight.com had a section on the website to take you to it, so there’s that.

I don’t know what the mini games were like, but I feel like having it on Biosector01 could help document it in-case somebody does have more information in-regards to it, since it hasn’t really been touched upon.

What we do know is some of the characters that appeared were, as well as some of the locations. I think I might also be able to find the names and descriptions of some of the mini games. I think it’s canon in the sense that it just literally follows the same story as Mask of Light, given that the original movie itself is such.

I am really curious myself about the game and have been trying to find out more information about it. What do you all think? -- FirespitterVakama 02:03, 9 April 2021 (EST)

For Walt Disney Pictures TokenZone/Disney TokenZone

  1. -- FirespitterVakama 11:56 AM, 26 April 2021 (EST)

Against Walt Disney Pictures TokenZone/Disney TokenZone

  1. This sounds like something that could easily be made into a trivia point. -- Toa Jala Converse 17:03, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
  2. I agree with the above, if only because we don't have the necessary info on it. If someone can someone more detailed evidence of exactly what was on this page, then maybe the point should be reconsidered, but as it stands we can't really say enough about it to make anything more than a trivia point. --ToaOfSnow(talk) 09:27, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments on Walt Disney Pictures TokenZone/Disney TokenZone

I'm not opposed, but partially because we don't have an overarching "websites" page, we just have individual pages for all the sites. If we were to consolidate a bit I would think it would get a section, but maybe not a whole page. -- Dorek Talk External Image 20:50, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I’m thinking about probably putting it on the MaskofLight.com page as a section for it, but yeah, I think I might as well do that in the meantime, and then go from there and see what others think, as to whether or not they want to split it, or just keep it as it is under the movie’s website page. -- FirespitterVakama 09:46, 10 April 2021 (EST)

I want to reply here to Toa Jala’s comment. Anyways, I feel like it should be noted that the game should probably have more than just one sentence placed under a Trivia section, due to the website that hosted it featured several games, alongside the ability to trade your cards in your deck for others that were available across the other Disney TokenZone pages. It was also featured on MaskofLight.com, with a line of text that would redirect to the website. There’s more to the website than you’d probably imagine, at least a lot more interesting information that should be put on it’s own page rather than just a few sentences that wouldn’t cover everything. -- FirespitterVakama 01:32 PM, 6 May 2021 (EST)

Web Story

I think it might be worth making a page for official BIONICLE Podcasts. Between Into the Darkness, Destiny War, The Rising, and The Truth, this was a prominent storytelling medium for a while.

Thoughts?

Make Web Story

  1. --Gonel (talk) 23:21, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  2. -- FirespitterVakama 09:19 AM, 5 May 2021 (EST)

Don't Make Web Story

Comments on Web Story

I feel like we should rather have a jointly page for blogs, story serials and podcasts. I'm not sure there's enough individual information for there to be seperate pages. ~ Wolk (talk) 12:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

I'd be happy with that. --Gonel 14:58, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Hmm, but what would such a page be named? Web Story? :/ ~ Wolk (talk) 00:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Good question... I'll change this proposal to that for now, and we can continue mulling it over. --Gonel (talk) 20:39, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

CDs

Related to the above, the Media page currently links to our Template:CDsNav, but there's no page that briefly touches on each CD/CD-ROM in relation to each other, unlike the other media types linked on the page. Additionally, these conveyed significant information with respect to character bios and worldbuilding, and they carried the first half of the 2004 story along with the books and comics. --Gonel (talk) 15:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Make CDs

  1. --Gonel (talk) 15:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. ~ Wolk (talk) 16:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. --Surel (Talk) 17:19, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. -- FirespitterVakama 08:03 AM, 24 May 2021 (EST)

Don't Make CDs

Comments on CDs

Move Charred Forest to Charred Jungle

Both the old Lexicon from the BIONICLE.com[A-C], the BEU page 21, and even Jala in the MNOG called the forest as the Charred Jungle, not the Charred Forest.

Move Charred Forest to Charred Jungle

  1. --Surel (Talk) 17:18, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. ~ Wolk (talk) 17:22, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. --Gonel (talk) 23:53, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. Planetperson 23:57, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. -- FirespitterVakama 08:05 AM, 24 May 2021 (EST)

Don't move Charred Forest to Charred Jungle

Comments on Charred Forest/Jungle

Notably, it appears that the only "official" usage of the phrase "Charred Forest" comes in the header from the MNOG Walkthrough, which I'm guessing was the original header on the section from when it was originally written by Mark and published. Where he got it is beyond me, though--perhaps he got it from this BS01 page, which could have already had this incorrect name. --Gonel (talk) 03:38, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Mata Nui Stone

Although it doesn't have the storied past that the Makuta Stone necessarily does, the Mata Nui stones are common objects on Mata Nui, and present enough in literature and the Legend of Mata Nui, are often found in huts and villages, and dominate the path to Po-Koro. It's a major symbol in the 2001-2003 storyline, and more than deserving of its own page.

Votes for making Mata Nui Stone

  1. --Gonel (talk) 16:25, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
  2. --Surel (Talk) 18:31, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
  3. --ToaOfSnow(talk) 06:48, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Votes against making Mata Nui Stone

Comments about Mata Nui Stones

Restore Arena Matches

Far as I can tell, this page was turned into a redirect as the list of Arena matches was moved into Events, however this page was more than just a list of those - it was where the Glatorian system, and its function, was explained, which has kind of gone at a loss. Last revision prior the change. ~ Wolk (talk) 15:18, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Votes for restoring Arena Matches

  1. ~ Wolk (talk) 15:18, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
  2. So that's why I couldn't find it... --Surel (Talk) 21:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
  3. Muy bien --Gonel (talk) 15:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
  4. Agree, there was a lot of history on that page and it's harder to track down that information without it. -- Toa Jala Converse 05:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
  5. Prefer the name "Glatorian System", but yes. --ToaOfSnow(talk) 06:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Votes against restoring Arena Matches

Comments on restoring Arena Matches

That would make sense. In that case, however, I think perhaps a title that indicates as much would help clarify these functions--perhaps "Arena System" or even "Glatorian System." --Gonel (talk) 02:10, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

That's fair. Glatorian System sounds good. ~ Wolk (talk) 05:11, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
I'm on board with "Glatorian System".-- Toa Jala Converse 05:13, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Add Deleted Scene to Trivia Section for B2:LoMN

This might sound strange, but while this is for a sentence to add to the Trivia and not a whole other page, I wanted to go ahead and ask the community (and I’ll also probably ask Swert too) if it would be ok for me to add this to the page. For people who never noticed it, there was a scene completely cut from Bionicle 2: Legends of Metru Nui in the final film. The reason behind the removal has never specifically been said nor confirmed, although it’s likely it was due to the events of the tragic September 11th (9/11) disaster.

For context, a few videos online surfaced containing test audio over what appears to be earlier footage completed during the development of the film. In one such instance, I think it was the second SFX video, the scene in-which parodies The Matrix where Vakama has a vision where he goes “No!” upon looking upon a tower is shown. In the final film, the tower completely stands still, and instead is shown with a scene following some lightning. However in the original cut version, the tower explodes, blows up, and then collapses similarly to original real WTC.

It’s pretty obvious why it was omitted from the film, but it has always baffled me how nobody in the community ever brings this deleted scene up.

The reason why I decided to ask was because it’s a very difficult subject to mention with families still grieving over the loss of loved ones 20 years later. I mean, the 20th anniversary of the disaster is only two days away, and I was curious on whether or not it should be worth mentioning on the films’ page. But overall, if it’s too dark to bring up here on the site, that’s perfectly understandable but I wanted to ask if it should still be brought up or not despite it’s dark subject matter. -- FirespitterVakama 09:40 PM, 9 September 2021 (EST)

Mention it in Trivia

Don’t Mention it in Triva

Comments

For those wondering where to view this scene; it is available here on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx5xYLto1bs -- FirespitterVakama 09:53 PM, 9 September 2021 (EST)

As long as you write it tactfully and objectively, I'm sure that people with personal connections to the tragedy will understand. As horrific as it was, it's just a fact of life at this point and something that has altered the course of countless things since it happened, like MNOG itself. But to ignore it and never speak of it would be the greater crime imo.
That said, are you sure that's why it was changed, and not just that this was a placeholder special effect? By this time this was made, 2-3 years had passed since 9/11, and if they had it in mind when making the film, I doubt they would ever have included this scene in the final film in the first place--just had it as a placeholder, if anything, as often happens in the world of special effects and animation.
At any rate, 9/11 is an important part of history now, and this scene is a legitimate part of BIONICLE's, so I see no reason not to add some trivia point touching on the scene. --Gonel (talk) 15:53, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm with Gonel. -- Toa Jala Converse 15:56, 10 September 2021 (UTC)