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== BIONICLE Facebook Page ==
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::MY VOTE COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>http://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  03:39, 29 September 2017 (CET)
 
::MY VOTE COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>http://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  03:39, 29 September 2017 (CET)
  
== Clock set pages ==
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==Music of the BIONICLE films==
"7397 Bionicle Clock", "Set:4193353 Bionicle Tahu Nuva Clock" and "4285303 Bionicle Clock" were three sets released in 2002, 2003 and 2007 respectively. You can find them on Bricklink or Brickset if you want to see images. Yes, these technically count as "gear", however they are built up out of pieces. What particularily makes me interested in making pages for these sets though is that 7397 includes a red noble Ruru, which has other wise only been released as a misprint. <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 19:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
===Create Set:7397, Set:4193353, Set:4285303===
 
# <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 19:44, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 
# —[[User:Planetperson|Planetperson]] 22:28, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 
# --"LBX battle on!!!" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 17:32, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
===Do not create Clock set pages===
 
# I feel like these would belong on a page with other Merchandise-related content, but individual pages for each clock seems like opening a can of worms (what does/does not constitute a set?) --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 08:41, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 
# I agree with the above. Additionally, one of (if not the) largest LEGO item data base, Brickset, considers this gear. If we consider this a set, what next? Shows with Kraana? Toothbrushes with Nuva masks? --[[User:Eljay Johnsen|Eljay Johnsen]] ([[User talk:Eljay Johnsen|talk]]) 05:54, 1 October 2018 (UTC) [[User talk:Eljay Johnsen|talk]]
 
 
 
===Comments on Clock sets ===
 
So to broaden this out even further, there's stuff like the Trading Card Game which may have included LEGO elements or may not have which have set numbers, and things like T-shirts too. I'd argue it's an all or nothing gambit; either everything that has a set number, or keep it to the core buildable figures. -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  04:11, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
Meant to type "shoes." But I certainly feel that this should be kept to items designed with the express purpose of being entirely constructed, such as the buildable figures and Playsets. --[[User:Eljay Johnsen|Eljay Johnsen]] ([[User talk:Eljay Johnsen|talk]]) 05:56, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[[User talk:Eljay Johnsen|talk]]
 
 
 
==Style Guides==
 
Style Guides! What are they? How do they work? Are they related to magnets? All this and more could be learned! I might just make the page anyway, but that's because I do what I want! -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  02:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
'''Page will be made.'''
 
 
 
===Comments===
 
Of the ones been put online so far, there's 2001, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2008... and I think that's it? -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  02:55, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
 
== Music of the BIONICLE films ==
 
 
 
 
If the topic is deemed worthy of its own separate article, I would very much like to create one for the soundtracks to the Bionicle movies. I believe a suitable title would be "Music of the BIONICLE films". The [[Music]] article would be given a link to it at the top of the "Movie Scores" section (e.g. ''Main article: Music of the BIONICLE films'').
 
If the topic is deemed worthy of its own separate article, I would very much like to create one for the soundtracks to the Bionicle movies. I believe a suitable title would be "Music of the BIONICLE films". The [[Music]] article would be given a link to it at the top of the "Movie Scores" section (e.g. ''Main article: Music of the BIONICLE films'').
  
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--[[User:Metalla]]
 
--[[User:Metalla]]
  
=== Create Music of the Bionicle Films Page ===
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===Create Music of the Bionicle Films Page===
 
# Definitely. —[[User:Planetperson|Planetperson]] 22:55, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 
# Definitely. —[[User:Planetperson|Planetperson]] 22:55, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 
# I like this idea :D — '''''[[User:Surel-nuva|<font color="DARKBLUE">Surel</font><font color="DARKRED">—</font><font color="GOLDENROD">Nuva</font>]]'' <sub>([[User talk:Surel-nuva|<font color="#8A7F8D">Talk</font>]])</sub>''' 23:25, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 
# I like this idea :D — '''''[[User:Surel-nuva|<font color="DARKBLUE">Surel</font><font color="DARKRED">—</font><font color="GOLDENROD">Nuva</font>]]'' <sub>([[User talk:Surel-nuva|<font color="#8A7F8D">Talk</font>]])</sub>''' 23:25, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 
# Seeing as each is it's own release, i say a separate page --"LBX battle on!!!" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 17:33, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 
# Seeing as each is it's own release, i say a separate page --"LBX battle on!!!" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 17:33, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
  
=== Don't Create Music of the Bionicle Films Page ===
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===Don't Create Music of the Bionicle Films Page===
 
# As much as I love these soundtracks, I can't see them warranting their own page, although I agree that the information on the [[Music]] page is lacking. I feel that any relevant info on these albums should either be added there, or on the page for [[Nathan Furst]] (which is another page that could use a rewrite). --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 01:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 
# As much as I love these soundtracks, I can't see them warranting their own page, although I agree that the information on the [[Music]] page is lacking. I feel that any relevant info on these albums should either be added there, or on the page for [[Nathan Furst]] (which is another page that could use a rewrite). --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 01:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 
# I gotta say no here. Info should just be put on the relevant existing pages (i.e. music, nathan furst, each movie's page, etc) {{Unsigned|Intelligence4}}
 
# I gotta say no here. Info should just be put on the relevant existing pages (i.e. music, nathan furst, each movie's page, etc) {{Unsigned|Intelligence4}}
 
# -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 01:42, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
# -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 01:42, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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#Not necessary. -- [[User:Toa Jala|'''<font color="gold" style="background:red" face="Algerian" size="4">Toa Jala</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Toa Jala|<font color="red" face="Algerian">Converse</font>]]</sup> 03:03, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
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#I think we can greatly expand the Music page with more information, such as track listings, maybe lyrics? but I don't think we need pages for the soundtrack, unless we are to also make pages for the songs. <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 14:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  
=== Comments on Music of the Bionicle Films Page ===
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===Comments on Music of the Bionicle Films Page===
 
In response to [[User:Snaptor|Snaptor]]'s comment in the "No" section at 01:29, 23 August 2018: Some of the information I had hoped to include in the proposed article is actually stuff I previously put on the Music page in the Movie Scores section, but another user seemed to think it was too excessive for that page and removed most of it (while also suggesting that I try to AFC a page). --[[User:Metalla|Metalla]] ([[User talk:Metalla|talk]]) 02:21, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 
In response to [[User:Snaptor|Snaptor]]'s comment in the "No" section at 01:29, 23 August 2018: Some of the information I had hoped to include in the proposed article is actually stuff I previously put on the Music page in the Movie Scores section, but another user seemed to think it was too excessive for that page and removed most of it (while also suggesting that I try to AFC a page). --[[User:Metalla|Metalla]] ([[User talk:Metalla|talk]]) 02:21, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
  
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::I think it is actually possible to create another voting option for the individual albums in the same poll - some others have added third sections after another option becomes apparent. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 09:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::I think it is actually possible to create another voting option for the individual albums in the same poll - some others have added third sections after another option becomes apparent. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 09:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
  
== Cast ==
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==Rename "[[Reformation of Spherus Magna]]" to "Restoration of Spherus Magna"==
 
 
A list of BIONICLE voice actors, per [[User:Doomdorm64]]. A sandbox is available at [[BIONICLEsector01:Sandbox#Cast]]. -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 01:52, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
===Create Cast===
 
# ([[User:Doomdorm64]], implicitly)
 
# ([[User:Vahkiti]])
 
# [[User:Lihkan435]] 00:21, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
===Don't create Cast===
 
#What PlanetPerson said. <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 02:10, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 
# For me the cast page doesn't make sense.— '''''[[User:Surel-nuva|<font color="DARKBLUE">Surel</font><font color="DARKRED">—</font><font color="GOLDENROD">Nuva</font>]]'' <sub>([[User talk:Surel-nuva|<font color="#8A7F8D">Talk</font>]])</sub>''' 10:57, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 
# -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 23:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
#If we're just talking about the voice actors, this can fit on the movies' pages. If we're talking about the movies' credits, that can perhaps be their own pages. ~ [[User:Zumoro Rahkshi|<font color="limegreen">'''Zumoro Rahkshi'''</font>]] - [[User talk:Zumoro Rahkshi|<font color="orange">Mouth-speak</font>]] {[[Special:Contributions/Zumoro Rahkshi|<font color="orange">Helpings</font>]]} 22:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 
#-[[User:Proto|<font color="black">Proto</font>]] [[User_talk:Proto|<sup><font color="black">talk</font></sup>]] 23:24, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 
# This information is present both on the movie pages and under the trivia sections of the respective characters. It would feel somewhat redundant to create a third page when the information is already very easy for anyone to find. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 23:01, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 
# put it on the respective movie pages. --"LBX battle on!!!" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 17:34, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
===Comments on Cast===
 
 
 
It makes more sense to me to keep this information on the pages for their respective movies. —[[User:Planetperson|Planetperson]] 19:29, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I guess we could maybe do a table and call it "list of cast members in BIONICLE films" or something like that? That's the only way I can see it working. -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  02:05, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Rename "[[Reformation of Spherus Magna]]" to "Restoration of Spherus Magna" ==
 
 
 
 
I think "reformation" is a poor choice of word here. The word "reformation" normally refers to correcting an institution or practice, not repairing a physical thing. It also has religious undertones. The term "restoration" would be more suitable.
 
I think "reformation" is a poor choice of word here. The word "reformation" normally refers to correcting an institution or practice, not repairing a physical thing. It also has religious undertones. The term "restoration" would be more suitable.
  
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#— '''''[[User:Surel-nuva|<font color="DARKBLUE">Surel</font><font color="DARKRED">—</font><font color="GOLDENROD">Nuva</font>]]'' <sub>([[User talk:Surel-nuva|<font color="#8A7F8D">Talk</font>]])</sub>''' 17:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
#— '''''[[User:Surel-nuva|<font color="DARKBLUE">Surel</font><font color="DARKRED">—</font><font color="GOLDENROD">Nuva</font>]]'' <sub>([[User talk:Surel-nuva|<font color="#8A7F8D">Talk</font>]])</sub>''' 17:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
# -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 23:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
# -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 23:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
#-- [[User:Toa Jala|'''<font color="gold" style="background:red" face="Algerian" size="4">Toa Jala</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Toa Jala|<font color="red" face="Algerian">Converse</font>]]</sup> 02:30, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 
 
# --"LBX battle on!!!" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 17:36, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 
# --"LBX battle on!!!" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 17:36, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 
# "Reformation" never sat right with me, you hit the nail on the head. --[[User:Angel Bob|Angel Bob]] ([[User talk:Angel Bob|talk]]) 20:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 
# "Reformation" never sat right with me, you hit the nail on the head. --[[User:Angel Bob|Angel Bob]] ([[User talk:Angel Bob|talk]]) 20:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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===Don't rename "[[Reformation of Spherus Magna]]" to "Restoration of Spherus Magna"===
 
===Don't rename "[[Reformation of Spherus Magna]]" to "Restoration of Spherus Magna"===
 
# Feels somewhat unnecessary, the three fragments are literally "re-forming" into Spherus Magna, so the new name actually feels more vague to me. Only real argument I can see against this is that restoration does better describe the re-greening stuff Mata Nui did. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 23:05, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 
# Feels somewhat unnecessary, the three fragments are literally "re-forming" into Spherus Magna, so the new name actually feels more vague to me. Only real argument I can see against this is that restoration does better describe the re-greening stuff Mata Nui did. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 23:05, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
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#-- [[User:Toa Jala|'''<font color="gold" style="background:red" face="Algerian" size="4">Toa Jala</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Toa Jala|<font color="red" face="Algerian">Converse</font>]]</sup> 02:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
  
 
===Name "Reformation of Spherus Magna" to something else===
 
===Name "Reformation of Spherus Magna" to something else===
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===Comments on renaming "Reformation of Spherus Magna"===
 
===Comments on renaming "Reformation of Spherus Magna"===
  
 
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==Rename "[[Assembler's Villages]]" to "Assembler's Village"==
== Rename "[[Assembler's Villages]]" to "Assembler's Village" ==
 
 
It doesn't really make sense for the page name to be in plural, in comparison to other pages such as Rahi ([[Artakha Bull]], [[Stone Rat]], etc.), objects ([[Zamor Launcher]]), occupations ([[Crafter]]). Additionally the BEU entry on page 11 is not in plural. <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 17:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 
It doesn't really make sense for the page name to be in plural, in comparison to other pages such as Rahi ([[Artakha Bull]], [[Stone Rat]], etc.), objects ([[Zamor Launcher]]), occupations ([[Crafter]]). Additionally the BEU entry on page 11 is not in plural. <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 17:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 
  
 
===Do rename "Assembler's Villages" to "Assembler's Village"===
 
===Do rename "Assembler's Villages" to "Assembler's Village"===
 
#<font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 17:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 
#<font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 17:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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#-- [[User:Toa Jala|'''<font color="gold" style="background:red" face="Algerian" size="4">Toa Jala</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Toa Jala|<font color="red" face="Algerian">Converse</font>]]</sup> 02:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
  
 
===Don't rename "Assembler's Villages" to "Assembler's Village"===
 
===Don't rename "Assembler's Villages" to "Assembler's Village"===
 
 
#--"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 20:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 
#--"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 20:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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# The closest comparison that comes to my mind is [[Matoran Homes]], and that's plural. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 02:24, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
  
 
===Comments on renaming "Assembler's Villages"===
 
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:Right, but there are also multiple Zamor Launchers? <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 20:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 
:Right, but there are also multiple Zamor Launchers? <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 20:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::A long time ago, back when the Vahki staffs were their own pages, there was a conversation about how they were named plurally ("Staffs of Command") while the Rahkshi staffs were named singularly ("Staff of Anger"). Somebody told me it was because each single Vahki had multiple staffs, but each single Rahkshi had only one staff. Not sure how to apply that to this, but thought it was worth mentioning. Is it accurate to describe this page as about the Assembler's Villages as a collective unit? -- <font color="PaleTurquoise" Style="background:Black">[[User:Master Inika|<font color="PaleTurquoise">Master Inika]]</font><small><sup>  ([[User talk:Master Inika|<font color="PaleTurquoise">Talk</font>]]) </sup></small></font>  21:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::A long time ago, back when the Vahki staffs were their own pages, there was a conversation about how they were named plurally ("Staffs of Command") while the Rahkshi staffs were named singularly ("Staff of Anger"). Somebody told me it was because each single Vahki had multiple staffs, but each single Rahkshi had only one staff. Not sure how to apply that to this, but thought it was worth mentioning. Is it accurate to describe this page as about the Assembler's Villages as a collective unit? -- <font color="PaleTurquoise" Style="background:Black">[[User:Master Inika|<font color="PaleTurquoise">Master Inika]]</font><small><sup>  ([[User talk:Master Inika|<font color="PaleTurquoise">Talk</font>]]) </sup></small></font>  21:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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To expand on the comment I made in my vote; this seems to be a common trend for "plural locations". [[Chute Stations]], [[Sea Gates]], and [[Stalactite Villages]] are all examples of this, in addition to [[Matoran Homes]] that I mentioned above. If we really want to make this change, it really should be an all-or-nothing attempt, which is why I voted against just renaming the [[Assembler's Villages]]. I would be more open to a full renaming of plural locations, but would still need to hear the arguments. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 23:27, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
  
 
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==Glatorian action figure game==
== Glatorian action figure game ==
 
 
 
 
I was looking this up the other day to remind myself of the rules. For some reason though, there's only a note in the set information for glatorian of all places. It seems strange for it to not have it's own page, or at least it's separate section or sub section on the glatorian page. --"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 20:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 
I was looking this up the other day to remind myself of the rules. For some reason though, there's only a note in the set information for glatorian of all places. It seems strange for it to not have it's own page, or at least it's separate section or sub section on the glatorian page. --"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 20:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
  
=== make "Glatorian action figure game" ===
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===make "Glatorian action figure game"===
 
 
 
#--"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 20:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 
#--"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 20:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 
#<font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 17:32, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 
#<font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 17:32, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 
# -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 22:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 
# -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 22:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 
# --[[User:MightBeAlon|MightBeAlon]] ([[User talk:MightBeAlon|talk]]) 14:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 
# --[[User:MightBeAlon|MightBeAlon]] ([[User talk:MightBeAlon|talk]]) 14:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
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#Yes, because the game also involved titans and Agori. -- [[User:Toa Jala|'''<font color="gold" style="background:red" face="Algerian" size="4">Toa Jala</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Toa Jala|<font color="red" face="Algerian">Converse</font>]]</sup> 02:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
  
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===make section on [[Glatorian]]===
  
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== Put Rahi Challenges on it's own page ==
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==Put Rahi Challenges on it's own page==
 
I feel it would be appropriate to allocate the Rahi Challenge expansion for [[BIONICLE:Quest for the Masks]] it's own page; it was released several months later as it's own design, would help give better distinction between itself and the base game. --[[User:MightBeAlon|MightBeAlon]] ([[User talk:MightBeAlon|talk]]) 23:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 
I feel it would be appropriate to allocate the Rahi Challenge expansion for [[BIONICLE:Quest for the Masks]] it's own page; it was released several months later as it's own design, would help give better distinction between itself and the base game. --[[User:MightBeAlon|MightBeAlon]] ([[User talk:MightBeAlon|talk]]) 23:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
  
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== Proposal to create ''[[Trouble for Tahu]]'' ==
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==Proposal to create ''[[Trouble for Tahu]]''==
 
After the three-part story told in ''[[Legend of Lewa]]'', the Adventures magazine published another two comics telling a connected story. For some reason, these comics are mentioned in all of [[Gallery:Comics#Trouble for Tahu/Time of the Toa|one place on the wiki that I could find]]. I've just thrown together [[User:The Wadapan/sandbox/Adventures|a sandboxed proposal]] - so far as I can tell, this seems like an obvious page to make? I'm against putting this content on the existing page for the first three Adventures comics, as Trouble for Tahu / Time of the Toa is explicitly a separate story. [[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 22:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 
After the three-part story told in ''[[Legend of Lewa]]'', the Adventures magazine published another two comics telling a connected story. For some reason, these comics are mentioned in all of [[Gallery:Comics#Trouble for Tahu/Time of the Toa|one place on the wiki that I could find]]. I've just thrown together [[User:The Wadapan/sandbox/Adventures|a sandboxed proposal]] - so far as I can tell, this seems like an obvious page to make? I'm against putting this content on the existing page for the first three Adventures comics, as Trouble for Tahu / Time of the Toa is explicitly a separate story. [[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 22:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
  
=== Yes: Create ''Trouble for Tahu'' ===
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===Yes: Create ''Trouble for Tahu''===
 
# [[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 22:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 
# [[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 22:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
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# Should definitely have them in some capacity, whether on their own page or in a merged page. --[[User:777stairs|777stairs]] ([[User talk:777stairs|talk]]) 04:11, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
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# I definitely see the point about other comics not sharing a page. Nonetheless, this one should be mentioned somewhere. <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 05:08, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
  
=== No: Do not create ''Trouble for Tahu'' ===
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===No: Do not create ''Trouble for Tahu''===
  
=== Place content for ''Trouble for Tahu'' on the page for ''Legend of Lewa'' ===
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===Place content for ''Trouble for Tahu'' on the page for ''Legend of Lewa''===
 
# Makes the most sense to me. Page would obviously need to be renamed, though. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 02:21, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 
# Makes the most sense to me. Page would obviously need to be renamed, though. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 02:21, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
  
=== Comments on proposal to create ''Trouble for Tahu'' ===
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===Comments on proposal to create ''Trouble for Tahu''===
 
:Could I get some more info on the magazine they were published in? Maybe a single page for both comics might be a better fit. -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  03:58, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 
:Could I get some more info on the magazine they were published in? Maybe a single page for both comics might be a better fit. -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  03:58, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::''LEGO Adventures! Magazine''. Published in a few European countries in the late '90s/early '00s. Standard format for UK kids' magazines, where each issue would have a mixture of short comic strips, simple articles, and activities (spot the difference, join the dots, that kind of thing). The five Bionicle strips (three for the Lewa/Gali story, two for the Tahu story) were, as far as I'm aware, published across five consecutive 2001 issues. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::''LEGO Adventures! Magazine''. Published in a few European countries in the late '90s/early '00s. Standard format for UK kids' magazines, where each issue would have a mixture of short comic strips, simple articles, and activities (spot the difference, join the dots, that kind of thing). The five Bionicle strips (three for the Lewa/Gali story, two for the Tahu story) were, as far as I'm aware, published across five consecutive 2001 issues. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:38, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 
:::So I guess my question is what delineates this as a separate story? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to all be part of one series with the occasional sub-heading? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the organizing. I'm pro creating a page for it in general, I just wonder the best way to order it all. -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  00:39, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 
:::So I guess my question is what delineates this as a separate story? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to all be part of one series with the occasional sub-heading? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the organizing. I'm pro creating a page for it in general, I just wonder the best way to order it all. -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  00:39, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::There's a much stronger split between "The Legend of Lewa/Gali's Tale" and "Trouble for Tahu/Time of the Toa" than there is between, well, basically any two consecutive issues of the main comic! Not just in terms of narrative - the narration in the comic itself clearly states "THE END" at the end of each multi-part story, with "TO BE CONTINUED" at the end of the individual parts comprising those stories. Each of the three 2002 McDonalds comics has its own page, and those are certainly individually comparable to the parts making up "The Legend of Lewa". The Papercutz #8 comics have separate pages, despite being ''published together'', because they're different stories - each individual part of these comics was published alone, and it seems very strange to throw them all on one page! Those are just a couple of examples, but in terms of comic book material the precedent on this wiki is certainly to place each individual comic on their own page - I'd argue the page for "The Legend of Lewa" already breaks precedent as it stands, and should really be split across three pages (though I don't actually want to see that happen; having that three-parter on one page is convenient in a lot of ways, but I think throwing in the Tahu two-parter as well muddies the waters unnecessarily).
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::::As a side point, correct me if I'm wrong, but the existing page seems to be at the wrong name - it's "''The'' Legend of Lewa", not just "Legend of Lewa". So that should really be moved. If you need that to be a separate proposal, I guess it can be. --[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 20:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::::I see your point, but am not convinced. Plenty of the online animations were completely separate uploads, but they are almost always contained on a single page for the grouping. I feel like the defining factor here is length - these are really short stories, and there seems to be little point giving them separate pages when sub-headings would probably do the trick. Perhaps the other examples you gave also need a compilation; [[BIONICLEsector01 talk:Articles for Deletion|Articles for Deletion]] is making a push to compile like pages at the moment. Still open to the idea of separate pages, but not persuaded yet. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 03:18, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::::The Legend of Lewa page should definitely be moved to "The Legend of Lewa", in my opinion. Is it necessairy to make an AFC for that? <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 05:14, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
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==Gallery:sets==
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I noticed that we while we do have a gallery for [[gallery:prototypes|prototypes sets]], we do not have a gallery for actual set images. <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 22:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
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===Yes: Create gallery:sets===
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# <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 22:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
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# Could be handy, really. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 08:21, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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# this would be nice. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 15:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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#-- [[User:Toa Jala|'''<font color="gold" style="background:red" face="Algerian" size="4">Toa Jala</font>''']] <sup>[[User talk:Toa Jala|<font color="red" face="Algerian">Converse</font>]]</sup> 03:03, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
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===No: Do not create gallery:sets===
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===Comments on proposal to create gallery:sets===
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I'm not opposed, I just don't see anyone willing to do the legwork =P. If someone were to actually create one, I certainly wouldn't complain. -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  07:23, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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:I can give it a shot. I'll need some help on formatting though, so I know what templates an whatnot. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex <sup>[[User:Srlojohn|~''<font color="blue" style="background:lightgreen">Prof. Srlojohn</font>'']]</sup> 15:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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==Proposal to split Fenrakk into Fenrakk Spawn and Fenrakk/Kardas/Kardas Dragon==
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Currently [[Fenrakk]] is an article about the Fenrakk spawn species, with a subsection on the mutated specimen called Fenrakk. I think the specimen is significant enough that [[Fenrakk]] should just discuss that particular spider, and the Fenrakk spawn species should have a separate page--just like how [[Pewku]] and [[Ussal]] are separate pages. -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 19:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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UPDATE: Per the discussion below, I've rethought the proposal. First, let's vote on whether or not to give Fenrakk the individual a separate article from the Fenrakk spawn species. If that vote passes, then we can determine what to call that article: Fenrakk, Kardas, or Kardas Dragon. (If we pick the latter two options, we'll incorporate Fenrakk's info into the existing Kardas Dragon article.) I've moved around the existing votes to reflect the new proposal. Of course still feel free to change your vote if I've moved it. -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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===Yes: Cover Fenrakk and the Fenrakk spawn species in distinct articles===
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If this option wins, we can figure out what to call both new articles/whether or not the new Fenrakk article should be merged with [[Kardas Dragon]].
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# -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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#Definitely a good idea.— '''''[[User:Surel-nuva|<font color="DARKBLUE">Surel</font><font color="DARKRED">—</font><font color="GOLDENROD">Nuva</font>]]'' <sub>([[User talk:Surel-nuva|<font color="#8A7F8D">Talk</font>]])</sub>''' 21:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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# <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 10:25, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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# --'''[[User:Creep Of The Deep|<font color="blue">Creep</font>]]''' 22:59, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
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# I always thought there was something weird about the format of that page, but you've hit the nail on the head. I have strong opinions on what the new page should be named, though. --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 10:44, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
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# ~ [[User:Zumoro Rahkshi|<font color="limegreen">'''Zumoro Rahkshi'''</font>]] - [[User talk:Zumoro Rahkshi|<font color="orange">Mouth-speak</font>]] {[[Special:Contributions/Zumoro Rahkshi|<font color="orange">Helpings</font>]]} 03:07, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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===No: Do not cover Fenrakk and the Fenrakk spawn species in distinct articles===
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If this option wins, we can figure out whether or not we should move the Fenrakk article to Fenrakk Spawn.
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===Comments on proposal to split Fenrakk into Fenrakk Spawn and Fenrakk/Kardas/Kardas Dragon===
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In that case, would it not be better to move Fenrakk to [[Kardas Dragon]] seeing as they are the same individual in different forms? Alone, I don't see us having enough information for a page on Fenrakk. <font color="#000000">'''~''' </font> [[User:Wolk|<font color="#ffbb00">'''Wolk'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Wolk|talk]]) 10:25, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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:Good point. I'd also be in favor of moving my vote to Kardas, rather than Kardas Dragon, because the Rahi is called Kardas in BEU and MGttU. But, my goal with this proposal was to move the Fenrakk info off of the page about the the Fenrakk spawn species--we can figure out article names later. I've updated the proposal and moved your vote accordingly. -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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I do get the Ussal page comparison, but I gotta say I'm not really feeling this. It's a confusing enough situation as it is; they were introduced to the audience as "Fenrakk" and then "Fenrakk Spawn" but the Fenrakk Spawn are basically the original, even though that's not what the name implies at all? I think it's fine as is. -- {{StaffLink|Dorek}} '''<sub>[[User talk:Dorek|<font color=DARKGREEN>Talk</font>]]</sub>''' <img>https://biosector01.com/images/LUG_Ambassador_LOGO_1_-_2014.png" width="100px</img>  17:24, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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:Yeah Fenrakk spawn is a misnomer. I suspect it's an out-of-universe nickname, but there's no confirmation for that afaik. Regardless, if we don't split the page up, we should at least move it to "Fenrakk Spawn" since that's the actual subject of the article. The current setup is analogous to calling the Ash Bear article "Graalok." -- '''[[User:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|<font color="#f11f1f">Morris the Mata Nui Cow</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Morris the Mata Nui Cow|talk]]) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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::My understanding (admittedly this is an uncertain topic) is that the "Fenrakk Spawn Spiders" are distinct from ordinary "Fenrakk" which are distinct again from Vezon's specific Fenrakk (which I think we should refer to as Kardas, it the same sense that we say Takanuva and not Takua). --[[User:Snaptor|<font color="#ff0000">S</font><font color="#ff6600">n</font><font color="#ffcc00">a</font><font color="#00cc00">p</font><font color="#00ccff">t</font><font color="#0000ff">o</font><font color="#9900ff">r</font>]]([[User talk:Snaptor|talk]]) 10:47, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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BIONICLE Facebook Page

Page will be made.

This wiki should probably have some way of referencing the happenings of the Bionicle Facebook page, which often releases images and videos that are either exclusive or are not released on another source until later and hosts events such as contests. Bionicle websites have articles so it should seem logical that the facebook page should as well. Even if a page is not made, there should be some way of referencing events that unfold on the facebook page as well as images, videos, and other content. This could mean a nav template or a category of some form. Post your thoughts.

Someone wanna get cracking on a sandbox for this? --Angel Bob (talk) 19:47, 31 October 2016 (CET)
Would someone make a sandbox? -- SurelNuva (Talk) 13:06, 14 February 2017 (CET)


Merchandise

Regardless of exactly what we call it, I feel as though we need a single page for all the obscure merchandising items Bionicle had during it's run, such as the Toa Mahri Dart Shooter or the Sponge Morbuzakh or even the Soft Foam Takadox Mask and Twin Knives, which clearly aren't important enough to deserve pages of their own but could probably be compiled onto a single page. The only issue I can see with this is that some of these are very difficult to find reliable citations for that extend beyond photographs (Otherwise surely there would be some mention of the wearable glow-in-the-dark Piraka teeth on the wiki) --Snaptor (talk) 01:24, 25 September 2017 (CET)

Page will be created.

Comments on merchandise

I think this will be a good page to have - but i think we have to be very careful in drawing the line between regular sets and stuff and all the ancillary merchandise that was available. Intelligence4 (talk) 00:48, 28 September 2017 (CET)

I found a TTV topic that has a huge list of this sort of thing. It obviously wouldn't qualify as an actual source, but it could certainly help as a sort of "checklist" to see exactly what sort of things we're looking for. Are we allowed to link to TTV here? (Also, on a more amusing note, I'm not sure I've seen something gather eight votes this quickly in ages, I was expecting this to be controversial. =P) Snaptor (talk) 11:10, 28 September 2017 (CET)

I just realized this only technically counts as seven votes, oops. Snaptor (talk) 23:49, 28 September 2017 (CET)
MY VOTE COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING -- Dorek Talk External Image 03:39, 29 September 2017 (CET)

Music of the BIONICLE films

If the topic is deemed worthy of its own separate article, I would very much like to create one for the soundtracks to the Bionicle movies. I believe a suitable title would be "Music of the BIONICLE films". The Music article would be given a link to it at the top of the "Movie Scores" section (e.g. Main article: Music of the BIONICLE films).

This article would encompass the full details of the Miramax trilogy soundtrack releases as well as their history, using as much data about them as I can find. It would cover subjects such as how Nathan Furst was initially brought on board to score the films, why they remained unreleased for such a long time, and the efforts made to release portions of the score prior to the official releases. It would also include any available information on the score of The Legend Reborn; even though that film has not been given a soundtrack release, it is possible there could be one in the future. It would not include information about the music of The Journey to One since that is a web series and not technically a movie.

I believe this topic is worthy of its own article due to the large amount of relevant information about it, in contrast to the other sections of the main Music article. I would, of course, be happy to assume responsibility for creating and maintaining the article.

Please post your thoughts below; any support would be greatly appreciated. I'd really love to be able to move ahead with this article.

--User:Metalla

Create Music of the Bionicle Films Page

  1. Definitely. —Planetperson 22:55, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
  2. I like this idea :D — SurelNuva (Talk) 23:25, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
  3. Seeing as each is it's own release, i say a separate page --"LBX battle on!!!" ~Prof. Srlojohn 17:33, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Don't Create Music of the Bionicle Films Page

  1. As much as I love these soundtracks, I can't see them warranting their own page, although I agree that the information on the Music page is lacking. I feel that any relevant info on these albums should either be added there, or on the page for Nathan Furst (which is another page that could use a rewrite). --Snaptor(talk) 01:29, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
  2. I gotta say no here. Info should just be put on the relevant existing pages (i.e. music, nathan furst, each movie's page, etc) (The preceding unsigned comment was made by Intelligence4)
  3. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 01:42, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
  4. Not necessary. -- Toa Jala Converse 03:03, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
  5. I think we can greatly expand the Music page with more information, such as track listings, maybe lyrics? but I don't think we need pages for the soundtrack, unless we are to also make pages for the songs. ~ Wolk (talk) 14:43, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Comments on Music of the Bionicle Films Page

In response to Snaptor's comment in the "No" section at 01:29, 23 August 2018: Some of the information I had hoped to include in the proposed article is actually stuff I previously put on the Music page in the Movie Scores section, but another user seemed to think it was too excessive for that page and removed most of it (while also suggesting that I try to AFC a page). --Metalla (talk) 02:21, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

That was probably me! Personally, I find a lot of it extraneous. I don't need to know where in Web of Shadows that minutes 1:05-2:37 of song 23 appear. We're not a Furst fanpage, no offense to the guy. The information needs to be relevant to more than just itself. -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:40, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Understandable. This is why I feel a separate page would be a worthy undertaking, as there is a fair bit of information on these scores that people may like to explore and/or simply have a comprehensive database to refer to. Of course, I wouldn't include information that's just plain unnecessary like, say, a detailed list of where each track appears. --Metalla (talk) 03:36, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

I think if Metalla wants to spend his personal time contributing useful information to this wiki, even if some of you find it more detailed than necessary, there's no good reason not to let him go ahead and do it. —Planetperson 00:00, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Planetperson, I appreciate the support! --Metalla (talk) 00:58, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
While I do appreciate Metalla's enthusiasm here, and also agree that we could most definitely use more information on the soundtracks, there is a point where, even on an extensive wiki such as this, there can be simply too much information. Imagine if we went to Greg Farshtey's page and added everything we know about him from the ask Greg topics over the years; nobody needs to know what his favorite pizza topping is (seriously, I think someone did actually ask that). If we really want to make pages for these soundtracks, we should make one for each album (I feel a page for an actual album release is plenty justifiable if we have pages for fifteen second flash animations and the like). I just don't think we should make one, big page that would likely end up reading like a Nathan Furst fan tribute; as awesome as he and his soundtracks are, this is still a wiki and should remain objective. I support the movement for more information on these soundtracks, we just need to think about how we go about doing it. Individual album pages would have my vote, as long as we are discerning with exactly what we put on them. --Snaptor(talk) 01:29, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
I get what you're saying. But given the amount of verifiable information that's currently available on the soundtracks (keep in mind it's only 3 albums, maybe eventually 4 if we're lucky), I really think a single cumulative page would be the best fit, at least for now. It would be better to have a page that encompasses all of the soundtracks in a complete and concise way rather than have multiple pages that are fairly short and contain redundant information. I would of course be very open to edits by other users, especially since there could be additional relevant information I am leaving out. --Metalla (talk) 04:59, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Okay, been a little over a month since this section had any activity so I kinda wanted to touch base. Opinions on this AFC seem pretty mixed so far, though it doesn't look like a lot of people have voted. To anyone who has a definitive opinion on whether this article should be created or not, I'd love for you to share it and/or cast your vote in the appropriate section, as I'm eager to have a more clear idea of whether this thing is gonna fly or not. Furthermore, the possibility of creating individual pages for each of the 3 albums has been suggested; if more people voice approval for that idea, I'd be willing to change the proposal (or create a new one altogether) and advocate for the creation of those instead. --Metalla (talk) 15:00, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I think it is actually possible to create another voting option for the individual albums in the same poll - some others have added third sections after another option becomes apparent. --Snaptor(talk) 09:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Rename "Reformation of Spherus Magna" to "Restoration of Spherus Magna"

I think "reformation" is a poor choice of word here. The word "reformation" normally refers to correcting an institution or practice, not repairing a physical thing. It also has religious undertones. The term "restoration" would be more suitable.

Definitions: reformation, restoration

Do rename "Reformation of Spherus Magna" to "Restoration of Spherus Magna"

  1. Planetperson 00:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  2. ~ Wolk (talk) 15:55, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  3. SurelNuva (Talk) 17:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  4. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 23:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
  5. --"LBX battle on!!!" ~Prof. Srlojohn 17:36, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
  6. "Reformation" never sat right with me, you hit the nail on the head. --Angel Bob (talk) 20:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Don't rename "Reformation of Spherus Magna" to "Restoration of Spherus Magna"

  1. Feels somewhat unnecessary, the three fragments are literally "re-forming" into Spherus Magna, so the new name actually feels more vague to me. Only real argument I can see against this is that restoration does better describe the re-greening stuff Mata Nui did. --Snaptor(talk) 23:05, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
  2. -- Toa Jala Converse 02:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Name "Reformation of Spherus Magna" to something else

Comments on renaming "Reformation of Spherus Magna"

Rename "Assembler's Villages" to "Assembler's Village"

It doesn't really make sense for the page name to be in plural, in comparison to other pages such as Rahi (Artakha Bull, Stone Rat, etc.), objects (Zamor Launcher), occupations (Crafter). Additionally the BEU entry on page 11 is not in plural. ~ Wolk (talk) 17:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Do rename "Assembler's Villages" to "Assembler's Village"

  1. ~ Wolk (talk) 17:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  2. -- Toa Jala Converse 02:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Don't rename "Assembler's Villages" to "Assembler's Village"

  1. --"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" ~Prof. Srlojohn 20:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  2. The closest comparison that comes to my mind is Matoran Homes, and that's plural. --Snaptor(talk) 02:24, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Comments on renaming "Assembler's Villages"

i say no, because some of the guides say that there are multiple villages spread around Po-metru. --"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" ~Prof. Srlojohn 20:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Right, but there are also multiple Zamor Launchers? ~ Wolk (talk) 20:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
A long time ago, back when the Vahki staffs were their own pages, there was a conversation about how they were named plurally ("Staffs of Command") while the Rahkshi staffs were named singularly ("Staff of Anger"). Somebody told me it was because each single Vahki had multiple staffs, but each single Rahkshi had only one staff. Not sure how to apply that to this, but thought it was worth mentioning. Is it accurate to describe this page as about the Assembler's Villages as a collective unit? -- Master Inika (Talk) 21:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

To expand on the comment I made in my vote; this seems to be a common trend for "plural locations". Chute Stations, Sea Gates, and Stalactite Villages are all examples of this, in addition to Matoran Homes that I mentioned above. If we really want to make this change, it really should be an all-or-nothing attempt, which is why I voted against just renaming the Assembler's Villages. I would be more open to a full renaming of plural locations, but would still need to hear the arguments. --Snaptor(talk) 23:27, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Glatorian action figure game

I was looking this up the other day to remind myself of the rules. For some reason though, there's only a note in the set information for glatorian of all places. It seems strange for it to not have it's own page, or at least it's separate section or sub section on the glatorian page. --"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" ~Prof. Srlojohn 20:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

make "Glatorian action figure game"

  1. --"♫We're driving old smokey! Porkchop's at the wheel! When we hit the junk realm, we'll make the drones squeal!♫" ~Prof. Srlojohn 20:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
  2. ~ Wolk (talk) 17:32, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
  3. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
  4. --MightBeAlon (talk) 14:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
  5. Yes, because the game also involved titans and Agori. -- Toa Jala Converse 02:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

make section on Glatorian

Don't make either

Comments

so, how many votes are needed to get approval? --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 19:12, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Per the rules on BIONICLEsector01:Articles for Creation you need three more votes, unless someone votes no, in which case you need five more. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Were the rules only ever listed in the back of manuals, or was there a "better" version listed anywhere? --MightBeAlon (talk) 14:34, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

maybe on the website, if not that's it then. Though there were slightly different rules for; single, double, +Agori, and Vehicle. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 18:37, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Makes sense. It might be worth someone scoping out the possible variations between them and compiling the differences, if any, between the potentially different rules on this hypothetical Agori Game page. --MightBeAlon (talk) 18:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
agori game? it was just an add on to the normal --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 18:37, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Whoops, I meant to call it the Glatorian Game but had a brainfart --MightBeAlon (talk) 18:39, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
The website used to have "interactive" tutorials for each of the four variants (it was like a glorified slideshow, but it explained things pretty well.) I don't know if anybody (BioMediaProject/Wayback Machine) has these preserved? --Snaptor(talk) 23:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)


Put Rahi Challenges on it's own page

I feel it would be appropriate to allocate the Rahi Challenge expansion for BIONICLE:Quest for the Masks it's own page; it was released several months later as it's own design, would help give better distinction between itself and the base game. --MightBeAlon (talk) 23:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes: Create Bionicle: Rahi Challenge

  1. MightBeAlon (talk) 23:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

No: Do not create Bionicle: Rahi Challenge

Comments on proposal to create Bionicle: Rahi Challenge

This is just my general ignorance on the card games themselves, but are the two sets not compatible? New rules is all fine and dandy, but if it's actually just an expansion, then I'd say they should stay on the same page. -- Dorek Talk External Image 02:44, 13 May 2019 (UTC)


Proposal to create Trouble for Tahu

After the three-part story told in Legend of Lewa, the Adventures magazine published another two comics telling a connected story. For some reason, these comics are mentioned in all of one place on the wiki that I could find. I've just thrown together a sandboxed proposal - so far as I can tell, this seems like an obvious page to make? I'm against putting this content on the existing page for the first three Adventures comics, as Trouble for Tahu / Time of the Toa is explicitly a separate story. The Wadapan (talk) 22:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes: Create Trouble for Tahu

  1. The Wadapan (talk) 22:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
  2. Should definitely have them in some capacity, whether on their own page or in a merged page. --777stairs (talk) 04:11, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
  3. I definitely see the point about other comics not sharing a page. Nonetheless, this one should be mentioned somewhere. ~ Wolk (talk) 05:08, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

No: Do not create Trouble for Tahu

Place content for Trouble for Tahu on the page for Legend of Lewa

  1. Makes the most sense to me. Page would obviously need to be renamed, though. --Snaptor(talk) 02:21, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Comments on proposal to create Trouble for Tahu

Could I get some more info on the magazine they were published in? Maybe a single page for both comics might be a better fit. -- Dorek Talk External Image 03:58, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
LEGO Adventures! Magazine. Published in a few European countries in the late '90s/early '00s. Standard format for UK kids' magazines, where each issue would have a mixture of short comic strips, simple articles, and activities (spot the difference, join the dots, that kind of thing). The five Bionicle strips (three for the Lewa/Gali story, two for the Tahu story) were, as far as I'm aware, published across five consecutive 2001 issues. Jalaguy (talk) 15:38, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
So I guess my question is what delineates this as a separate story? Wouldn't it make more sense for them to all be part of one series with the occasional sub-heading? I'm just trying to wrap my head around the organizing. I'm pro creating a page for it in general, I just wonder the best way to order it all. -- Dorek Talk External Image 00:39, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
There's a much stronger split between "The Legend of Lewa/Gali's Tale" and "Trouble for Tahu/Time of the Toa" than there is between, well, basically any two consecutive issues of the main comic! Not just in terms of narrative - the narration in the comic itself clearly states "THE END" at the end of each multi-part story, with "TO BE CONTINUED" at the end of the individual parts comprising those stories. Each of the three 2002 McDonalds comics has its own page, and those are certainly individually comparable to the parts making up "The Legend of Lewa". The Papercutz #8 comics have separate pages, despite being published together, because they're different stories - each individual part of these comics was published alone, and it seems very strange to throw them all on one page! Those are just a couple of examples, but in terms of comic book material the precedent on this wiki is certainly to place each individual comic on their own page - I'd argue the page for "The Legend of Lewa" already breaks precedent as it stands, and should really be split across three pages (though I don't actually want to see that happen; having that three-parter on one page is convenient in a lot of ways, but I think throwing in the Tahu two-parter as well muddies the waters unnecessarily).
As a side point, correct me if I'm wrong, but the existing page seems to be at the wrong name - it's "The Legend of Lewa", not just "Legend of Lewa". So that should really be moved. If you need that to be a separate proposal, I guess it can be. --The Wadapan (talk) 20:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
I see your point, but am not convinced. Plenty of the online animations were completely separate uploads, but they are almost always contained on a single page for the grouping. I feel like the defining factor here is length - these are really short stories, and there seems to be little point giving them separate pages when sub-headings would probably do the trick. Perhaps the other examples you gave also need a compilation; Articles for Deletion is making a push to compile like pages at the moment. Still open to the idea of separate pages, but not persuaded yet. --Snaptor(talk) 03:18, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
The Legend of Lewa page should definitely be moved to "The Legend of Lewa", in my opinion. Is it necessairy to make an AFC for that? ~ Wolk (talk) 05:14, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Gallery:sets

I noticed that we while we do have a gallery for prototypes sets, we do not have a gallery for actual set images. ~ Wolk (talk) 22:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes: Create gallery:sets

  1. ~ Wolk (talk) 22:09, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
  2. Could be handy, really. --Snaptor(talk) 08:21, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
  3. this would be nice. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 15:25, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
  4. -- Toa Jala Converse 03:03, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

No: Do not create gallery:sets

Comments on proposal to create gallery:sets

I'm not opposed, I just don't see anyone willing to do the legwork =P. If someone were to actually create one, I certainly wouldn't complain. -- Dorek Talk External Image 07:23, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

I can give it a shot. I'll need some help on formatting though, so I know what templates an whatnot. --"I wanted show that humans are not gods, nor are we monsters, i wanted people to think about what it means to be human" -Lex ~Prof. Srlojohn 15:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Proposal to split Fenrakk into Fenrakk Spawn and Fenrakk/Kardas/Kardas Dragon

Currently Fenrakk is an article about the Fenrakk spawn species, with a subsection on the mutated specimen called Fenrakk. I think the specimen is significant enough that Fenrakk should just discuss that particular spider, and the Fenrakk spawn species should have a separate page--just like how Pewku and Ussal are separate pages. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 19:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

UPDATE: Per the discussion below, I've rethought the proposal. First, let's vote on whether or not to give Fenrakk the individual a separate article from the Fenrakk spawn species. If that vote passes, then we can determine what to call that article: Fenrakk, Kardas, or Kardas Dragon. (If we pick the latter two options, we'll incorporate Fenrakk's info into the existing Kardas Dragon article.) I've moved around the existing votes to reflect the new proposal. Of course still feel free to change your vote if I've moved it. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes: Cover Fenrakk and the Fenrakk spawn species in distinct articles

If this option wins, we can figure out what to call both new articles/whether or not the new Fenrakk article should be merged with Kardas Dragon.

  1. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
  2. Definitely a good idea.— SurelNuva (Talk) 21:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
  3. ~ Wolk (talk) 10:25, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
  4. --Creep 22:59, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
  5. I always thought there was something weird about the format of that page, but you've hit the nail on the head. I have strong opinions on what the new page should be named, though. --Snaptor(talk) 10:44, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
  6. ~ Zumoro Rahkshi - Mouth-speak {Helpings} 03:07, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

No: Do not cover Fenrakk and the Fenrakk spawn species in distinct articles

If this option wins, we can figure out whether or not we should move the Fenrakk article to Fenrakk Spawn.

Comments on proposal to split Fenrakk into Fenrakk Spawn and Fenrakk/Kardas/Kardas Dragon

In that case, would it not be better to move Fenrakk to Kardas Dragon seeing as they are the same individual in different forms? Alone, I don't see us having enough information for a page on Fenrakk. ~ Wolk (talk) 10:25, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Good point. I'd also be in favor of moving my vote to Kardas, rather than Kardas Dragon, because the Rahi is called Kardas in BEU and MGttU. But, my goal with this proposal was to move the Fenrakk info off of the page about the the Fenrakk spawn species--we can figure out article names later. I've updated the proposal and moved your vote accordingly. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

I do get the Ussal page comparison, but I gotta say I'm not really feeling this. It's a confusing enough situation as it is; they were introduced to the audience as "Fenrakk" and then "Fenrakk Spawn" but the Fenrakk Spawn are basically the original, even though that's not what the name implies at all? I think it's fine as is. -- Dorek Talk External Image 17:24, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah Fenrakk spawn is a misnomer. I suspect it's an out-of-universe nickname, but there's no confirmation for that afaik. Regardless, if we don't split the page up, we should at least move it to "Fenrakk Spawn" since that's the actual subject of the article. The current setup is analogous to calling the Ash Bear article "Graalok." -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
My understanding (admittedly this is an uncertain topic) is that the "Fenrakk Spawn Spiders" are distinct from ordinary "Fenrakk" which are distinct again from Vezon's specific Fenrakk (which I think we should refer to as Kardas, it the same sense that we say Takanuva and not Takua). --Snaptor(talk) 10:47, 7 September 2019 (UTC)