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-- I AM THE DOREK do not truffle with me 21:05, 1 March 2014 (CET)

Tools

If you could give some more canon or up-to-date examples besides Tale of the Toa, which is considered semi-canon, that would be great; they've been considered Tools for many years now, and even if they are "attached" in a certain way, like Pohatu's, it's hard to dismiss them as being "part of the body". For Gali in particular, the hooks are most decidedly tools; the quote at the top of the page, which is the most relevant and recent source for that, clearly identifies them as such. -- I AM THE DOREK do not truffle with me 06:15, 4 March 2014 (CET)

Hi! i'm fairly new around here, but i've been on others wikis before. couple questions... 1. is there a page that lists all the rules on here? i noticed you said don't undo staff edits as one of them. 2. speaking of staff, who are the other staff members? is there a way i can ID them on sight? (like a bold or different colored username or something) 3. Is this site considered a fan-site or is it an official bionicle site?
about the hooks...
1. one more quick question, are all of the books considered semi-canon? if so, why? they were written by people on the bionicle team, people whose word is taken as canon on other stuff (greg and cathy)
2. all of the others books as well, prior to their transformation into Nuva, referred to them as her "hooked arms."
3. also, her bio on the website referred to them as such.
4. i remember reading a comic that referred to them as such as well... not sure which one it was though, sorry :(
5. if they are listed as separate, then why are onua's claws not as well? we know those are his hands from the same sources as gali's.
6. bionicle.wikia.com also says they are part of her hands, last i checked.
on pohatu's feet...
why are they considered separate? i'm a very long time fan of bionicle (since the beginning), and i've never seen anything to indicate they aren't just part of his feet. also, as the template at the top of that page indicates, the name, "feet additions" is made up.
As far as rules go, it's all there in the welcome template; upon doing some digging I can't actually find the "don't undo staff edits" rule, which either means it's been lost somewhere or it was always just a culture thing. We're not super picky about it these days, it's just a general "work it out respectfully" rule; if you have an issue, it'a always better to talk it out than get into an editing war (which is definitely against the rules). You can find the other staff members here but in terms of actually getting a response (or at least making sure the issue is noticed), Swert is your best bet, followed by me. Aside from memorizing the list, it's the people who have a colored name in the Recent Changes list. You can also ask Morris, who is more or less staff and seems to be around, but a lot of what he does is technical, so he's the best go-to for template and coding questions.
BS01 technically is a "Fan-site", yes. We've had official funding before, but it's privately owned now. We're still the most accurate one around, though!
Now, as for the actual story questions...
1-2. The first three BIONICLE Chronicles books are semi-canon because at the time they were written, they weren't strictly bound to the nitty-gritty canon details. This is why you see certain elements that aren't actually possible given what we later learn; my best example is always the "baby Gukko" Lewa finds at one point, when we know Rahi don't actually breed. The events themselves are considered canon because those were the points laid down by the story team, but since the actual writing was outsourced to Cathy Hapka, who is more less a "freelance" writer who pens for many different series, there are bits and pieces that don't fully mesh.
3. I don't remember that in particular, but as I mentioned, we always try to go with the most recent source, because that's the most up-to-date one. As the hooks feature in the encyclopedia as holdable tools, we consider them as such.
4. Well, we do have most of the comics hosted externally; if you want to find a specific one, you can always start on the Comics page!
5. I can only imagine that either A. a later source (such as the encyclopedias) explicitly identifies them as such, or B. Greg confirmed this somewhere. Unfortunately, as BZP has since lost their record of Greg questions and answers, we're out of luck on finding most of them; it was a big blow to my efforts to get citations up, which would have helped avoid issues like this. Since the page has reflected it this way for many years, I'm inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt, although it's certainly not ironclad, and open up for challenging. I'll definitely be checking my encyclopedias to see what they have to say.
6. The Bionicle Wikia has a history of not being as rigorous with their checking process as we were, so you'll see a few things there that aren't necessarily accurate. That isn't to say we aren't infallible either, but our standards of including information have always been much higher and less susceptible to personal opinion; we're big fans of hard facts.
7. As far as Pohatu's feet go, the use of "feet additions" was so long ago that it may have actually been before my time, but you're right, it is a bit of a conundrum; did we use the name and get clarification later, or was the name based on a previous clarification (probably from Greg)? I lean towards the latter, for reasons I've already mentioned, but like I said, I'll definitely be checking around to see if there's any contradictions in various sources. If you have any specific references or places to look as well, that'd be great.
Hope all of this helps! -- I AM THE DOREK do not truffle with me 22:46, 4 March 2014 (CET)


Yeah, it does, thanks a lot! :) I'll see if I can find some stuff on those hooks too - I've always thought they were her hands, so I'm interested in getting to the bottom of this. Would anyone on here happen to know of a way to contact Greg? Intelligence4 (talk) 02:58, 5 March 2014 (CET)

The easiest way to contact Greg is on the LEGO Message Boards. I've submitted a post asking about Gali and Pohatu's tools, but it hasn't been reviewed by the administrators yet so it's not visible; I'll get back when he responds. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 05:21, 5 March 2014 (CET)