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=== Merge [[Twin Knives]] with Takadox ===
=== Merge [[Twin Knives]] with Takadox ===
# See the comments '''[[User:OnionShark|<font color="black">~</font><font color="castletongreen">OnionShark</font>]]''' 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)
# See the comments '''[[User:OnionShark|<font color="black">~</font><font color="castletongreen">OnionShark</font>]]''' 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)
# we could probably do this with a lot of pages - most tools didn't show up separately from their users. [[User:Intelligence4|Intelligence4]] ([[User talk:Intelligence4|talk]]) 01:31, 1 July 2017 (CET)
=== Don't Merge Twin Knives with Takadox ===
=== Don't Merge Twin Knives with Takadox ===



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4/6 Toa Hagah Spears

Look at the pages - there is nothing listed on these pages that is not already listed on the relevant Toa's pages. The Seismic Spear has the most information out of all of them, but it still barely says anything about the weapon. As much as I would like to have more information about them, these pages are redundant and don't contribute anything to the wiki. --Angel Bob (talk) 22:54, 12 April 2017 (CET)

Delete 4/6 of the spears

Keep the spears

Make one page for all the spears

  1. It overal looks like the better way to go. ~OnionShark 07:45, 31 May 2017 (CET)
  2. I agree --WOLKsite (talk) 00:51, 2 June 2017 (CET)
  3. This is a smart move. Changing my vote. --Angel Bob (talk) 03:39, 2 June 2017 (CET)
  4. I'm for either keep the pages or this, and this seems to have more momentum. --777stairs (talk) 15:57, 2 June 2017 (CET)
  5. Hagah spears sounds good to me — SurelNuva (Talk) 22:50, 2 June 2017 (CET)
  6. --- Creep 23:15, 2 June 2017 (CET)
  7. There's honestly a lot of weapon groups we should do this for. --Master Inika (Talk) 01:37, 7 June 2017 (CET)
  8. --Harsulin's Ghost (talk) 01:06, 22 June 2017 (CET)

Comments on the Hagah Spears

I'm inclined to agree with you, but i think if we delete four of the pages, the other two should go as well - we could just move all the content we have on them to their relevant toa pages, under the masks and tools section or whatever. i just think it'd be weird to delete four of them and leave two there. Intelligence4 (talk) 17:43, 17 April 2017 (CET)

Or we could make a page for the Hagah weapons like we did for the Rahaga staffs. ~OnionShark 21:53, 17 April 2017 (CET)
I don't agree at all. Lava Spear and Cyclone Spear have images, Set Information, and Example Usages - more than enough to qualify for a page. The other four spears have none of this. We shouldn't be making decisions like this based on an all-or-nothing school of thought. If you think it would be too "weird" to have only two weapons for the Toa Hagah in Template:ToolsNav, we could easily keep the names in the navbox, and just set them up to link to their respective Toa pages' Mask and Tools sections.
I would also oppose making a page for all 6 weapons (for one, what would we even call the page?). Rahaga Staffs works because each of the weapons has an individual power, but not enough specific information to qualify for a page. The Avalanche Spear, etc. have nothing but their names. There just isn't enough info to justify listing these 4 anywhere but their respective Toa pages. --Angel Bob (talk) 22:51, 17 April 2017 (CET)
I think the information we have on the two spears is short enough that we could put it on the toa pages - set information, for one thing, isn't really independent, since they only came as part of the toa sets. Intelligence4 (talk) 19:43, 26 April 2017 (CET)
Or we could create a page that just covers all six spears-don't a couple of the G2 weapons have something like that going?--Wiriamu (talk) 21:11, 30 May 2017 (CET)

I already suggested this and it does look like a good idea, I added it as a third option. ~OnionShark 07:43, 31 May 2017 (CET)

I still think that we should merge the page with their respective toa pages, since we have a section on each of those pages for the toa's tools anyway, but you can count my vote for just merging the pages into one if we need to push it over the limit to get it done. Intelligence4 (talk) 23:07, 2 June 2017 (CET)
I think it is definitely a good idea to merge these pages into one, and to possibly do something similar for a number of other pages as well.--Harsulin's Ghost (talk) 01:09, 22 June 2017 (CET)
Sandbox page made. What do you guys think? --Master Inika (Talk) 06:21, 29 June 2017 (CET)
We should do that with so many weapons (Vahki staffs, Bohrok/Bohrok-Kal shields, Rahkshi Staffs) too, and the sandbox's looking pretty good. — SurelNuva (Talk) 16:55, 29 June 2017 (CET)
I agree; that looks good for a release candidate page and we should totally do that with a bunch of other clone-style weapons. I think we should make a list on which page groups to do that to as a separate topic on here to vote on. (i guess i'll get to that in a sec.) as far as the actual sandbox goes, i think we could publish it as is, but there are a few edits i can think of making right off the bat, including changing the infobox image - as is, the cropped image looks like norik's tool belongs to iruni. Intelligence4 (talk) 01:35, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Another thing, since there's 8 votes for this now, can anyone close the voting and declare it decided, or is that a staff thing? Intelligence4 (talk) 01:36, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Yep, done. I don't want to delete the pages until we've finalized the new page though. Specifically I think we should come up with a better way of incorporating the trivia points about Norik's and Iruini's tools into the rest of the article. If there isn't a good way to do this, I suggest reconsidering the merge as it shouldn't come at the cost of making content harder to find. -- Morris the Mata Nui Cow (talk) 01:45, 30 June 2017 (CET)
I think I just solved the problem Morris, didn't I? — SurelNuva (Talk) 12:42, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Can I make the page? The six individual page will be 6 redirects, we should not delete them. — SurelNuva (Talk) 16:53, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Clone Tools

For want of a better word, I'm making this section to nominate the deletion/merging of a bunch of pages, as mentioned in the toa hagah tools discussion. I figured instead of making a yes/no votes section, we could just have a running tally of each group of pages we want to condense. If you think of another set of pages you want to nominate, just add it as a subsection here and we can all vote.

Stun Staffs

  1. Intelligence4 (talk) 01:41, 30 June 2017 (CET)
  2. SurelNuva (Talk) 14:16, 30 June 2017 (CET)
  3. ~OnionShark 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Don't Make Stun Staffs

Rahkshi Staffs

  1. Intelligence4 (talk) 01:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)
  2. SurelNuva (Talk) 14:16, 30 June 2017 (CET)
  3. ~OnionShark 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Don't Make Rahkshi Staffs

Bohrok Shields

  1. SurelNuva (Talk) 14:16, 30 June 2017 (CET)
  2. ~OnionShark 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Don't Make Bohrok Shields

Bohrok-Kal Shields

  1. maybe it could be merged with the Bohrok shields— SurelNuva (Talk)
  2. ~OnionShark 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Don't Make Bohrok-Kal Shields

Bohrok Va Tools

  1. SurelNuva (Talk) 14:16, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Don't Make Bohrok Va Tools

  1. See the comments ~OnionShark 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)

Merge Twin Knives with Takadox

  1. See the comments ~OnionShark 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)
  2. we could probably do this with a lot of pages - most tools didn't show up separately from their users. Intelligence4 (talk) 01:31, 1 July 2017 (CET)

Don't Merge Twin Knives with Takadox

Comments on them

The Piraka weapons are individuals enough to deserve their own pages. The Barraki's tools are questionable. — SurelNuva (Talk) 14:16, 30 June 2017 (CET)

The Shark Tooth Blades and Tri-talons have enough info on them to merit pages of their own, but I think that one for the Twin Knives is unneeded. I also like the suggestion of having both the normal and Kal shields on the same page, but for now let's keep the voting options apart. Lastly, I don't think that a page for the Va's tools is needed, simply because they don't already have pages of their own but are mentioned in the abilities and traits sections of their respective Bohrok, so they are fine like this. ~OnionShark 15:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)
Pahrak Va have the same hammers as Turaga Onewa, the Tahnok Va have firestaffs like Turaga Vakama. — SurelNuva (Talk) 15:49, 30 June 2017 (CET)
One more reason to get rid of the 7 Rahkshi staffs that answer claims that the shape of the staff doesn't matter, they are just the focus.[1] So Guurahk's and the Rahkshi of Heat Vision's staff are the same weapon, but being held by another Rahkshi. — SurelNuva (Talk) 17:44, 30 June 2017 (CET)
  1. "Official Greg Discussion", post {{{post}}}. BZPower Forums. (archived on greg.thegreatarchives.com)